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re: Chicago Police Shooting Video Released

Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:20 pm to
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What baffles me is why he continues to shoot while the kid is on the ground


Yeah, that is pretty much will screw him. A gun is one thing but on the ground with just a knife.
Posted by Nativebullet
Natchez, MS
Member since Feb 2011
5143 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:22 pm to
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16! I am in shock


The guy is dead regardless if it was 1 shot or 26 shots. Quit thinking about the amount of shots. The question is, was the action to shoot justified or not?
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27455 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

What baffles me is why he continues to shoot while the kid is on the ground. Drugs or not, at that point he is no longer a threat.


Yep. That was disturbing. I can even maybe understand that if he had a firearm but it was a knife. Seems like the DA made the right call in charging him with murder.

That video was pretty damning.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27058 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

The guy is dead regardless if it was 1 shot or 26 shots. Quit thinking about the amount of shots. The question is, was the action to shoot justified or not?


Number of shots matter. Especially since many were into a guy on the ground. And a knife fight.

16 shots mean you are an evil bastard (shouldn't be a cop) or fricking terrified and reply with a disproportionate amount of force (shouldn't be a cop ).
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27058 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:28 pm to
Btw what da fuq is the audio I'm listening to.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:37 pm to
Have we become such gaping vaginas now that we can stand the sight of a cartoon penis?

This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:38 pm to
Funny you bring it up, the admins are in fact gaping vaginas.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:31 pm to
he's not some open target for target practice.

that is disgusting behavior

and no the action was not justified.

Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:32 pm to
people survive gun shots all the time.. at least have a chance at it..

even head shots people have survived

Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:33 pm to
people survive gun shots all the time.. at least have a chance at it..

even head shots people have survived


again, not every situation is ever the same.. if he was truly posing a threat and trying to harm the officer then that can be a different story. this guy was walking away with only a knife.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263354 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:37 pm to
It's not uncommon for them to unload. Depends on the department's training. Most are taught to continue firing until the threat is over, seems like it ended pretty quickly there. I've seen lots of videos of cops continuing to shoot when the suspect was down though.

This one wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10590 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:45 pm to
So the next course of action is unloading a full clip into someone? Give me a break. If the guy were charging them or pulled out a gun, sure, I could see needing to use deadly force. But at that point, as the video shows, there were other means to subdue the victim. The kill first mentality is prevalent across all races by cops in the U.S..

I understand they have a difficult job to do, but they signed up for it. I guess the question we all should ask is for what reason? It's clear there is a faction of "peace officers" that treat their position as a pedestal, a crown so to speak, where they can unleash their desires to feel big and powerful. It's clear the desire isn't there to preserve life for too many of them, our prisons aren't built to rehabilitate, and our laws aren't set up for the common good or with common sense.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:47 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18629 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

The guy is dead regardless if it was 1 shot or 26 shots. Quit thinking about the amount of shots. The question is, was the action to shoot justified or not?



The number of shots really does matter. If you are in dire threat, you shoot till threat is down. Shooting once or shooting too much are both grounds for heavy suspicion. If you shoot once, the threat must not have been very threatening that you truly feared for your life in dire circumstances. I've talked with people who've been in shooting incidents and they say that by the 3rd or 4th shot, any sense of shock and adrenaline will be easing up and you should be back control and the threat should have gone down around by then more or less. He shot the dude 16 times. That is beyond excessive.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:53 pm
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27455 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

This one wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.


Really?

Im a conservative Army veteran, law Enforcement and military supporter and registered Republican voter and that video was disgusting. It was a heinous crime.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263354 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:56 pm to
quote:



Really?

Im a conservative Army veteran, law Enforcement and military supporter and registered Republican voter and that video was disgusting. It was a heinous crime.


I've seen far worse police shootings on camera.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27455 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:13 am to
quote:

I've seen far worse police shootings on camera.


Do you think that was a justified shoot?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:18 am to
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:38 am to
So we have a 17y/o carrying a knife, NOT HIGH ON DRUGS, walking away from the cops who is shot 16 times and people are defending the cop and calling this justified? Disgusting. The cop should be dropped off in Syria
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:47 am to
Sorry if it's been discussed, but I didn't read the entire thread... What exactly is being protested?

The cop was charged with 1st degree murder, correct? So...
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