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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:42 am to Roux-Roux
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So while I am frustrated I wonder where the proof is to state that Les Miles strangles this offense.
You aren't going to find a smoking gun on this no matter how hard you look. But in all the important circles it's known that Miles is the reason the offense looks the same coordinator after coordinator. It was widely known that Fisher was extremely frustrated with Miles before he left for the very reason you question. Charles Hannagriff had some pretty interesting facts on this during the postgame the other night. Coach Strud actually had pretty good offensive numbers as OC at bowling green, Fisher has won a natty with FSU, Crowton won a natty with LSU, and got strangled when Jarrett Lee started throwing picks. That is were Les took the turn for ultra conservative with exception of Mett's second yr starting. There is little doubt that Kragthorpe would have had any significant difference from previous OC's during the Miles era. We see what Cam's done. 1 productive year, and if you think about that, it was out of necessity because LSU couldn't stop anyone that year, you had 2 stud recievers and a stud QB.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:23 am to Roux-Roux
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I keep hearing that Les Miles strangles this offense. Where is the proof. Who is in the know? What if it really is just Cameron?
He vehemently blamed himself for the offensive game plan vs Arkansas. Not in a "I'm the coach, so I'll take the blame" way either.
Go watch it.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:29 am to Roux-Roux
FWIW I know someone who's brother is on the team. She said Les pretty much runs the offense.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:30 am to Roux-Roux
Look no further than Jimbo Fisher. His offense with Jamarcus Russell and his plethora of top notch NFL receivers went into Auburn and scored I think 6 points in 2006. Does that sound like a Jimbo Fisher offensive strategy? Do you think he would only score 6 points with that kind of talent if he were not handcuffed by someone else's philosophy?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:36 am to Roux-Roux
Miles keeps saying that he's going to fix what's wrong, but it never gets fixed. The offense has not looked comfortable at all this season, at least for any long stretches.
Les is probably highly pissed that the contract for his buddy Cam has not been renewed yet. The grass eating and jumbled coach-speak ain't so cute anymore when you're losing the big games.
Les is probably highly pissed that the contract for his buddy Cam has not been renewed yet. The grass eating and jumbled coach-speak ain't so cute anymore when you're losing the big games.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 11:38 am
Posted on 11/17/15 at 2:22 pm to Roux-Roux
Well since the departure of Jimbo Fisher, LSU has struggled offensively with 3 different offensive coordinators. At what point, exactly, does the problem lie with the head coach?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:52 pm to Roux-Roux
How many times over the years have we come out of a timeout, change of possession,tv timeout &had to waste a time out? The offense is always at the line of scrimmage for forever it seems and looks to the sideline 2-3 times and finally rush to snap with 1-2 seconds on the play clock. I believe it was the flea flicker recently Les told the sideline reporter that Cam asked him to run it and eventually convinced him it would work.
Gary Crowton had top offenses at Byu,Oregon,etc with the recruiting pools there.He comes to Lsu where the recruiting pool is soooo much better and has an offense , I believe was at #120 or so.what does that tell you? Coach Stud didn't want to put up with being handcuffed.Coach Cam has always been praised for his work with P. Rivers, J. Flacco, D.Brees and has had good offenses. The improvement he made with Mett. I like the run it down your throat mentality but you have to throw also. I think the majority would like our offense if he'd let these guys run their offense. Look at the drive before halftime of Arkansas. That was sweet. Where did that go?
Gary Crowton had top offenses at Byu,Oregon,etc with the recruiting pools there.He comes to Lsu where the recruiting pool is soooo much better and has an offense , I believe was at #120 or so.what does that tell you? Coach Stud didn't want to put up with being handcuffed.Coach Cam has always been praised for his work with P. Rivers, J. Flacco, D.Brees and has had good offenses. The improvement he made with Mett. I like the run it down your throat mentality but you have to throw also. I think the majority would like our offense if he'd let these guys run their offense. Look at the drive before halftime of Arkansas. That was sweet. Where did that go?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:47 pm to Roux-Roux
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So again, how do y'all know it's Les and not Cam?
The offense has pretty much looked the same since 2005, with some exceptions, no matter the OC. That's how I know.
I knew in 2006, when LSU bunched up at the Florida goal line, EVERYONE knew it was going to be a QB sneak, Florida had what looked like 15 men around the LSU center, the ball was snapped, OL pushed back, fumbled, lost the ball (turnover). That game opened my eyes.
IMO LSU had the most talented team in the country in 2006, and some announcers said the same. The offense was "shackled by something" - not dynamic, predictable, and could not adjust well.
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