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re: Why does it have to be the coaches fault? Why not blame the players?

Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:53 pm to
Coaches recruit, train, put together game plans and are 100% responsible for everything that occurs in a program.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:53 pm to
Miles is also the guy that recruited one of the best QB's in the country,who happens to be from LA,to be a damn FB

Dak under Cam for the 2014 and 2015 years would have been great. I think Cam can teach QBs, but Harris (like we have said for a while) was ridiculously raw coming out. He was all arm strength and mobility. Would have been much better had he not started til next year at the earliest and had learned from Prescott.

We also have to commit more to the passing game as well. That's why pass blocking has looked awful most of Miles's time here, and that's why when our QBs have to be in a shootout, they look lost. We threw it 352 times with Mett his 1st year (356 passes for the year) for an average of 27 per game. That's the highest LSU average by far since 2008, but those 356 passes in 13 games only ranks 109th in the country this year (100th in the country in 2012).

Several things are that

1) we haven't been effective in throwing the ball at all since 2007 except for 2013.
2) these guys barely get to throw the ball and when they do, they almost always look really bad.
3) our lack of throwing and production keep our first options away (Bridgewater, Rudolph)
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:55 pm to
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Is there some perfect recruiter and coach that 100% never makes a mistake or has a hole on his team? That is an unrealistic expectation. Looks like we realized a problem and attempting to fix it.


CLM has always been a great recruiter to some on here....I don't consider allowing your team to lack depth at two of the most important areas being great in recruiting. The head coach/staff should know this more than any fan.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:55 pm to
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Where is this magical talent gauge you all seem to have?

Dude, they lost to fricking Toledo
Posted by Dark Helmet
Spaceballs One
Member since Sep 2007
413 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:57 pm to


I thought the rank of your recruiting class was an indicator of how good your recruits are. LSU has consitently been in the top 10.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30477 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:57 pm to
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This evolved exactly as I thought it would, still falling back on arguing about the coaching staff.



Now I have to thank you for proving me right, baw.

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Lemme guess, you started a thread to "ask" a rhetorical question; only to be able to spew the pumper "logic" when someone doesn't answer the way you WANTED it to be answered.



Where is my easy button?


Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23367 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:58 pm to
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Why are most so delusional in thinking LSU's players are always superior to the other team?


Why are you delusional in thinking that Arkansas' players are 17 pts better than LSU's players?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:58 pm to
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There are a million and one variables that go into a players performance besides talent.


the general consensus, amongst the people who know talent, is that LSU is loaded. I bet 3 weeks ago the positigers were praising CLM recruiting and the narrative wasn't "we don't have the talent'...2 games later it's "we don't have the talent"
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:59 pm to
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Why are you delusional in thinking that Arkansas' players are 17 pts better than LSU's players?


Because Saturday night proved that they are. That is why they play the game.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:59 pm to
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CLM has always been a great recruiter to some on here.


Hard to argue that he hasn't done very well in this facet.

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I don't consider allowing your team to lack depth at two of the most important areas being great in recruiting


Studrawa and Brick proved to be poor recruiters. It showed.
Yes Miles is responsible as head coach but no one can do it by themselves. All these top guys need assistants to do the ground work in their territories.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:01 pm to
The players have to execute, but the strategy they're executing should put them in the best position to succeed. As Miles himself said, "I like my quarterback, I like my tailback. I think this offensive line is pretty good. So it's gotta be something I'm doing." (Paraphrasing)

But basically, it's been ten years of anemic offenses and yet we've put more talent into the NFL, including on offense, than any other college team in the country. That's an indication that the talent is there, but needs to be coached properly.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:01 pm to
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I bet 3 weeks ago the positigers were praising CLM recruiting and the narrative wasn't "we don't have the talent'...2 games later it's "we don't have the talent"


I have seen most people understand the lack of depth we have in the front 7. I was being positive hoping that we could over come. Obvious that wasn't the case.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:01 pm to
First of all it's the coaches jobs to have the players ready to play. Even my son's pee wee coach takes the blame when they lose.
Second, these college players in my opinion are relatively still kids. We shouldn't put too much blame on them ever at any university. Once you hit the pros then the gloves come off.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:02 pm to
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dstone12


Continue posting as I command you to do.
Posted by Brbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
1370 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:03 pm to
I can think of 4.3 million reasons to blame the coach.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:03 pm to
The majority of the base expected the front 7 depth to be a problem on the back end
Posted by hbuc88
San Antonio
Member since Dec 2009
1174 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:03 pm to
A player is responsible for his performance. But what people are criticizing is the same type of play year after year with different players. And LSU gets talented players. So yes, it's more coaching than players.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30477 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:05 pm to
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ontinue posting as I command you to do.



Continue to "non-sequitur as I command you to.


When is the last time you asked your husband "does this dress make me look fat?" This thread is proof.


This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23367 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Because Saturday night proved that they are. That is why they play the game


Saturday night proved that Miles is unwilling to adapt and that the whole mindset of this team is just f*cked. And that starts at the top on down.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:09 pm to
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"non-sequitiar


Nice edit.
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