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re: It's not he scheme it's the philosophy
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
2013 was the only year since 2007 we have had a great offense thanks to Met. 1 year of good qb play since 2007. Our offense was not great in 2011. It was good until Lee shite the bed against bama. Did you watch the NC game arse wipe? That was a great offense sure enough. Tm7 made the 2011 season and without him there would have been a lot more close games and at least 1-2 regular season losses. Why? because our offense was shite or should I say we had no qb. Go back watch how many times he scored and made huge plays bailing out our offense. A once in a lifetime freak made an okay team look great. I'm not saying Jennings is good either. If you look at the Jennings at the end of last year compared to Harris this year, Jennings looked better in my opinion. Jennings at least has a little touch. Harris has been shielded thanks to Fournette this year. Look what happened at Bama. Can you honestly say Harris as of now is ready? He can only throw the deep ball, is not accurate and throws too hard when receivers are close. He shite the bed just like he did at Auburn plain and simple. Stop defending this crap. I hate ignorant fricks like you that respond with nothing more than gotcha attempts.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:47 pm to stingercj7
quote:you are just choosing to be forgetful.
either. If you look at the Jennings at the end of last year compared to Harris this year, Jennings looked better in my opinion. Jennings at least has a little touch. Harris has been shielded thanks to Fournette this year. Look what happened at Bama. Can you honestly say Harris as of now is ready? He can only throw the deep ball, is not accurate and throws too hard when receivers are close. He shite the bed just like he did at Auburn plain and simple. Stop defending this crap. I hate ignorant fricks like you that respond with nothing more than gotcha attempts.
Last years end of year Jennings was the worst QB I have ever seen, like ULM QB bad...terrible.
Harris wasn't perfect
Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:55 pm to stingercj7
I thought he looked great in that last drive of the first half against Arky, but I've never seen that before nor did I see it again after he went 8-9, 91yrds and a TD. He seemed comfortable running those quick hit passes from the shotgun, but that's not what we do.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:05 pm to Elrod
Actually, it's not Einstein's definition, either. He wasn't the one to coin the phrase on insanity. It was Rita Mae Brown in her novel, "Sudden Death", published in 1983.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:13 pm to stingercj7
quote:you are just choosing to be forgetful.
either. If you look at the Jennings at the end of last year compared to Harris this year, Jennings looked better in my opinion. Jennings at least has a little touch. Harris has been shielded thanks to Fournette this year. Look what happened at Bama. Can you honestly say Harris as of now is ready? He can only throw the deep ball, is not accurate and throws too hard when receivers are close. He shite the bed just like he did at Auburn plain and simple. Stop defending this crap. I hate ignorant fricks like you that respond with nothing more than gotcha attempts.
Last years end of year Jennings was the worst QB I have ever seen, like ULM QB bad...terrible.
Harris wasn't perfect
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:46 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
you are just choosing to be forgetful.
Honestly your probably right. I really do try to forget to ease the pain.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:00 pm to stingercj7
this thread seems like deja vu all over again
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:00 pm to boxcar willie
quote:And, we have to practice it like it's going to be friggin important.
we still need to use a philosophy that works in those 10% games throughout the rest of the season also so that when we get to those 10% games, the offense that will work against them is a smooth running machine and not something we just installed for that particular game.
Everyone talked this year about BH's inaccuracy. Before that, it was AJ. Before that, JJ/JL.
Um, hey guys. Newsflash. Throwing accurately IN A GAME at GAME speed requires repetition!
Accurate passing goes hand in hand with great timing with receivers, comfort with expectations of how routes will be run, comfort that you will both read the defense the same way and on and on.
IDGAF how much you practice shite when your QB is wearing the special jersey during the week, if you plan to only pass when the other team fricking makes you, it's too damned late.
Oh, and here's another newsflash our coach seems to have never heard of. If the vast majority of the time you pass is in OBVIOUS passing situations, you create 2 problems.
1)The defense sort of is prepared for that shite.
2)Your QB ends up in "zero defect mode" where every fricking time he's passing, it's in a "must complete" situation.
shite, we even did that crap a lot during ZM's senior year. Fortunately, when you have an NFL QB, two star NFL WRs and an NFL RB, you can get away with that shite.
Putting your first year starters into that situation is asinine.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:02 pm to tigerfoot
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Last years end of year Jennings was the worst QB I have ever seen, like ULM QB bad...terrible.
Yeah. AJ by the season's end had basically ceased to be a QB. The difference between having him at QB and just running the wildcat was negligible.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:07 pm to biglego
quote:?
This was an odd bump
I didn't bump it. It was near the top when I responded to it.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:11 pm to ShortyRob
WOW
Now up to 7 pages of the same old people spouting the same tired old crap.
More of the dumb leading the stupid. Don't you people ever have an original thought?
Now up to 7 pages of the same old people spouting the same tired old crap.
More of the dumb leading the stupid. Don't you people ever have an original thought?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:25 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:Pot.............meet..................oh, never mind.
More of the dumb leading the stupid. Don't you people ever have an original thought?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:36 pm to boxcar willie
We don't run enough formations or our personnel in certain formations gives stuff away.
How often do you see Alabama run a play action pass to a tight end in the flat on 1st down, and the dude is wide open and gets 6 yards?
Then, when you watch LSU run a very similar play, the quarterback is rushed by the edge rusher and the tight end releases he's completely covered and the most we get is like a 2 yard gain?
It's crazy.
To me, it has to be something with our formations. They must be a dead giveaway. Like, when they line up in a certain set with certain personnel in, there must only be a couple different plays we can run.
The defense knows what we are going to do way too often.
How often do you see Alabama run a play action pass to a tight end in the flat on 1st down, and the dude is wide open and gets 6 yards?
Then, when you watch LSU run a very similar play, the quarterback is rushed by the edge rusher and the tight end releases he's completely covered and the most we get is like a 2 yard gain?
It's crazy.
To me, it has to be something with our formations. They must be a dead giveaway. Like, when they line up in a certain set with certain personnel in, there must only be a couple different plays we can run.
The defense knows what we are going to do way too often.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:07 pm to Gray Tiger
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WOW Now up to 7 pages of the same old people spouting the same tired old crap.
look on the date of it dude and I wasn't the one who bumped it as a matter of fact
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:07 am to ShortyRob
I know you didn't, I shouldn't have responded to you when I wrote that
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:41 am to boxcar willie
I agree with most of your post. I do think we have a ways to go before we can expect the offense to carry us to an SEC west crown
Against the 6 SEC west opponents we scored--21, 45, 16, 14, 17 and 19 points. Taking away the high and low scores it is about an 18pt per game average.
Teams have began to score a lot more points and we will need to do so also to win the west.
Saban realized this and brought in Kiffin even though he did not care for him. Our defense will improve next year if Beckwith stays. We will need to bring our average up about 7pts per game in the West to win it.
Against the 6 SEC west opponents we scored--21, 45, 16, 14, 17 and 19 points. Taking away the high and low scores it is about an 18pt per game average.
Teams have began to score a lot more points and we will need to do so also to win the west.
Saban realized this and brought in Kiffin even though he did not care for him. Our defense will improve next year if Beckwith stays. We will need to bring our average up about 7pts per game in the West to win it.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 7:14 am to boxcar willie
One thing that bothers me is that fact that we Rarely hit wide receivers at the line of scrimmage. It's one of the most simple plays you can call that gets good yardage a good amount of the time. I remember us doing this with Odell and Jarvis a lot. We have Malachi and dural on the outside that can make a CB miss. I'm sure we did it more, but I only remember us doing it one time this year and it was in the bowl game to Dupre and he almost scored.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 7:27 am to boxcar willie
They need to model the offense like the 1990s Dallas Cowboys' offense. Emmitt Smith has 4 rushing titles and Aikman threw the ball enough when needed to the WRs and TEs. Why Cameron never has Harris throwing timing routes, with his arm strength, like Aikman did is beyond me, because Cameron is from the same coaching tree as Norv Turner and Ernie Zampeze? Those 15 yard outs to Irvin were unstoppable.
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