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re: Jason Verrett & Jarvis Landry...What could have been...

Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:07 pm to
sounds like Landry should move from WR to RB
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59709 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:09 pm to
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It isn't worth the risk
Others would say it's because hes laughably bad

PR rank 64 of 70 - Dead last for anyone with 10+ returns
KO rank 121 of 159 - One return only and includes retuns of squibs and onside kicks. Can toss out the KO numbers. The PR numbers are a different story.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59709 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:11 pm to
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So why isn't his(Landry's) YPC higher?

It's bc he catches balls much closer to the LOS come on bro.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:12 pm to
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R rank 64 of 70 - Dead last for anyone with 10+ returns
KO


How did sproles do as a PR in Nola compared to Philly?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59709 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:25 pm to
Not sure but it's irrlevant. You can't just throw what ifs in regard to coaching every time something isn't in favor of your side of the argument. I use production.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:27 pm to
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Not sure but it's irrlevant. You can't just throw what ifs in regard to coaching every time something isn't in favor of your side of the argument. I use production.



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It's bc he catches balls much closer to the LOS come on bro.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:29 pm to
If he was on any other team his routes would carry him further down field. And if you think Jarvis runs a 4.75 on the field youve never seen him play. So please dont bring up his combine 40 yard time in which he was injured. Im not saying Jarvis would run fly routes. The miami offense is focused on making short plays and moving the chains. Hes running 5 yard routes in their dink and dump offense. In most other offense, including our own, he would run more intermediate routes to go with the shorter ones. He is capable of way more than the role the dolphins have him in. He is a legit playmaker. In crunch time tannehill barely even looks at anyone else. If Jarvis had drew throwing him the ball his stats would dwarf cooks'.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1842 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:32 pm to
actually, one was a slant where the defender missed the tackle immediatley after the catch and then he ran untouched to the endzone because there was no safety help, not because he simply ran past the defenders.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:33 pm to
Thankyou. i dont think these people know the definition of versatile.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59709 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:34 pm to
That is fact, the numbers prove that Landry catches balls closer to LOS than Cooks. If you find a stat from breaking tackles Landry will have 3x more at a minimum. Trying to hint that Cooks has a poo average because of something other than his own abilities is a wee bit different.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59709 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:34 pm to
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Thankyou. i dont think these people know the definition of versatile
Agreed.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1842 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:35 pm to
Tell that to the steelers and antonio brown.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1842 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:44 pm to
Just a little exerpt from an article following Jarvis' pro day. i dont know where yall got those 4.7+ 40 times, but i shouldnt be surprised.

Former LSU wide receiver Jarvis Landry shaved a full tenth of a second off his 40-yard dash time at LSU's Pro Day Wednesday.

Landry ran the 40-yard dash in 4.51 seconds – more than a tenth of a second better than his disappointing 4.65 time in the 40 at the NFL Combine last February in Indianapolis that featured various tests, agility drills and timings like Pro Day.

"I'm ecstatic," Landry said. "I guess I silenced a few of the critics."

Landry led LSU in receptions, yards receiving and in touchdowns as a junior last season with 77 catches for 1,193 yards and 10 touchdowns.

"He can run," LSU offensive coordinator Cam Cameron said. "The coaches who came here, they have no doubt what his speed is – his game speed. He carries his pads well."


let me point out that antonio Brown ran a 4.47 yard 40 time. And he is top 3 WRs in the game. i bet you wouldnt say that he is limited by his speed. Runs every route there is. i dont think .04 seconds is that much of a difference but im sure that in your infinite wisdom you can prove me wrong.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279171 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:58 pm to
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The miami offense is focused on making short plays and moving the chains.



why does Kenny Stills average 17 YPC and Rishard Matthews average 15 YPC, if the offense is just centered around dinking and dunking??

shite, why does Lamar Miller average as many yards per catch as Landry?



So what you are saying is that Landry can be like Antonio Brown, they just would rather him run 5 yard routes because that fits their offense better?


I mean I love Landry, One of my favorite players at LSU ever. Tough hard nosed dude. But c'mon. His speed limits him. Pro day times are almost always faster than NFL Combine times. His vertical jump and broad jumps show he lacks explosion. he's a 4.60 guy at best, and it is 100% fact he ran a 4.77 at the combine, slowest among all WRs
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279171 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:02 pm to
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If you find a stat from breaking tackles Landry will have 3x more at a minimum. Trying to hint that Cooks has a poo average because of something other than his own abilities is a wee bit different.



catching the ball 5 yards away from the line means more chances at breaking tackles, and more chances at YAC. Also when you run a 4.77, more people are going to hit you.

He's a tough runner but give me the guy that can get 20 yards without anyone touching him. The more versatile guy that can run the whole route tree.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279171 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:04 pm to
Antonio Brown doesnt return kicks. There aren't many relevant offensive players that return kicks anymore.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1842 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:06 pm to
The Bottom line is Landry is a more versatile and superior receiver than Brandin Cooks. And with that, i am done with this conversation.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279171 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:08 pm to
what makes him superior? you never said


you can't be versatile when you only run 1 route
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:12 pm to
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The Bottom line is Landry is a more versatile and superior receiver than Brandin Cooks. And with that, i am done with this conversation


Lester supported his argument with stats and facts

You just said he's better because I said he is and didn't back it up at all.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1842 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:25 pm to
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im a noob and cant figure out how to post just the gif, but you're not gonna see brandin cooks do this.
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