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Last night was blatant proof that John Chavis was never the problem.

Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10613 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:20 pm
And I now fully understand why Chavis left.

Once again, the offense decided to pack it in, punt, sit on the lead, play field position, and rely heavily on the defense to win the game.

Once again, the opposing team had an opportunity to win the game on the final drive.

And, once again, the opposing team effortlessly drove the length of the field into LSU territory, and put themselves in a position to win the game - and no, John Chavis wasn't coaching the defense.

Last night's game was evidence that Chavis was never the problem. Somehow, for some reason, people on this board continue to defend Les Miles' ultra conservative play calling. They defend his obdurate, moronic nature of running between the tackles against loaded defensive fronts. They defend his absolute refusal to attack the opponent while on offense, while instead trying to milk the clock and "wear down" the opposing defense.

After Chavis left, the narrative that was sold by this board was that he was the problem. There have been a handful of games in the past where we were unable to stop the opposing team on the final drive, so he had to go. He was the issue. Despite fielding the #1 defensive in the SEC last year with young players, Chavis was the problem. This is what the LSU fan base has been led to believe.

And yet, here we were, yet again, in the exact same position last night - hanging on by a thread, with the opponent having an opportunity to drive down the field and win the game in the final seconds.

And MSU came incredibly close to doing just that. The game was out of our control, and was MSU's for the taking. I'm not sure how anyone can look at this game last night and come to the conclusion that Chavis was ever the problem.

The problem is tepid, uninspired, incredibly vapid play calling, coupled with a complete aversion to field a dynamic, attacking style offense.

The problem was never Chavis, and the problem isn't Kevin Steele - the problem is Les Miles. And the fact that some fans on here are so myopic that they can't understand this is truly disturbing.
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 1:03 pm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41960 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:21 pm to
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Cry more about a win, pussy
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8883 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:22 pm to
Working overtime today Bee? Do you get hazard pay for having to defend the putrid second half play calling?
Posted by LaBoyNTn
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
663 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:22 pm to
Very well said, my friend
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
82148 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:22 pm to
this is going to be a longggggggggggggggggg year on this board
Posted by ttowntigah
Member since Sep 2015
174 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:23 pm to
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the problem is Les Miles


Posted by Plankton
Member since Jun 2015
1455 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

And yet, here we were, yet again, in the exact same position last night - hanging on by a thread, with the opponent having an opportunity to drive down the field and win the game in the final seconds.



What I was impressed by most during the last minute drive was Steele allowing our DB's to play man. Though Ross was shifty in the slot and Wilson had the ability to shield off the defenders, each time the ball was caught the WR was tackled basically on the spot.

With Chavis, we would have seen a zone getting shredded with receivers getting plenty YAC. Ultimately leading to a TD or an easy FG.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
54558 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:24 pm to
Only total retards thought Chavis was the problem.
Posted by The Hindu Dindu
HE A GOOD BOI
Member since Sep 2015
113 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

this is going to be a longggggggggggggggggg year on this board


Then what's keeping you here? Just curious, if you hate it that much.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
10665 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:25 pm to
Amen brotha
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
54558 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:25 pm to
Only total retards thought Chavis was the problem.
Posted by verretcm
Member since Oct 2012
359 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:25 pm to
Stupid arse post.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172310 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:25 pm to
Chavis and his d doesn't hold Mississippi State once they got to the 30 last night. LSU was playing balls out at that point. The last play was cover 0.

With Chavis State would have hit another 10 yard pass or two and hit a 30 yard field goal.
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
12858 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:26 pm to
2014 - Mississippi State had 302 yards rushing with a 6.2 yard per rush average.

Last night - 43 yards rushing, 1.7 yards per rush.

It's not all about offense, our defense was much better last night and was actually applying pressure.

Good riddance to Chavis.
Posted by The Hindu Dindu
HE A GOOD BOI
Member since Sep 2015
113 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Stupid arse post.


Does that dipshit ever make any other kind?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42861 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Last night was blatant proof that John Chavis was never the problem.


Actually last night proved that Chavis was the problem. We have the same style offense that we have had every year except 2013 and 2011 and were playing the best qb in the SEC. We stopped them and even without the delay of game that fg would have been a tough one. If we had given Dak ~1:30 vs a Chavis D, State wins.


The offense is not perfect, but having a D that actually stands up and makes a stop to force a long field goal is going to be nice.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172310 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

2014 - Mississippi State had 302 yards rushing with a 6.2 yard per rush average.

Last night - 43 yards rushing, 1.7 yards per rush.

Who was our middle linebacker against them in 2014 and who was it last night?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41960 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

The problem was never Chavis - the problem is Les Miles. And the fact that some fans on here are so myopic that they can't understand this is truly disturbing.


The most successful coach in school history is the "problem"?

Never go full retard.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:29 pm to
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Once again, the offense decided to pack it in, punt, sit on the lead, play field position, and rely heavily on the defense on win the game.

Once again, the opposing team had an opportunity to win the game on the final drive.



And yet, this defense stopped MSU at the end of the game last night.

Something that Chavis' defense failed to do time and time again over the years.

I've never said Chavis was "the problem". But pretending that he was irreplaceable and some stellar tactician is just as revisionist as claiming he was "the problem".

Without game changers like Peterson and Mathieu in 2011 and 2010, Chavis' other four seasons were pretty average, with 2013 being just plain bad, with the best offense we'd had during his tenure.

He is a very solid coach, and will undoubtedly be an upgrade for A&M. But our defense lack big play capability since 2011, and it was time for a change imo.

Steele and O may be just the guys to get the spark back on defense, and I saw plenty of that last night. Including getting a huge sack on the final drive of the game that we failed to do time and time again under Chavis.

This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13226 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:30 pm to
3rd N Chavis never existed at LSU or Tennessee?
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