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Recommend a DSLR Camera for a novice

Posted on 8/31/15 at 12:30 am
Posted by Mullet Flap
Lysdexia
Member since Jun 2015
4208 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 12:30 am
I've wanted a nice camera for a while..mostly taking outdoor landscape photos..mountains, ocean, forests etc. as well as some nature shots..

However I've always used rickety compact cameras.. Never any experience with DSLR's...what would you guys recommend? I want something that's under $3k or so and of course has wireless connectivity. And preferably great low light performance.

I want to frame some shots for my parents, obviously just some smaller pictures around 11x17 size at the biggest. I've looked at the Canon EOS 70D but really open to anything at this point. Fully aware i'm going to need to do some studying before I start using it, which i plan to do at least a couple weeks before making a purchase.

Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:14 am to
If you are a novice I highly recommend learning how to compose shots well on a ... compact camera. Or your phone. Professionals often use them and come up with publishable results. Learn technique first, and then once you do you will know the kind of DSLR you want that has the features you miss the most.

Check these out. I took all of them with a Canon G9 - which is an almost 10 year old point and shoot camera. None are shopped either, these are raw images.





Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8683 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:38 am to
70D is a good option. The body select means far less than the lenses you select. However, as has been pointed out, you might as well be taking cell phone shots if you leave it in Auto. There are lots and lots of dSLRs sitting in closets getting dusty (particularly lately) because of people thinking the $2000 investment would produce magic, wall-worthy shots. As discussed above, most photographers (I mean this in the loosest sense, as in someone who has just taken the time to learn the basics) can take better photographs with a cell-phone than a new dSLR owner who runs around blasting off shots in Auto mode.


I'd suggest The Digital Photography Book by Kelby and Understanding Exposure to really advance your knowledge quickly. Both are outstanding (I think there are multiple editions of the first one) and present things in a real-world way.

If I were putting together a starter kit, I'd go 70D Body only, Canon 50mm f/1.8 and Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8, learn about Photography, and grow from there based upon what you like to shoot.


The only other suggestion I have, and it's purely personal based on what kind of person you are, is to consider the new mirrorless cameras such as Samsung's offerings. If you really want a mobile option and don't want to carry around a huge bag of lenses....this may be the way to go. People are producing epic shots from them, including some pros who have made the switch. See here. Just an idea.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 7:47 am
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2428 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:48 am to
I'm a novice and have really enjoyed my Sony NEX-3. Started with a single zoom lens. Now I have 3 lenses and 2 adapters.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Recommend a DSLR Camera for a novice

, please.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4149 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:53 am to
Make your investment in your lenses. Bodies come and go, but glass stays with you. I shoot nikon, primarily because the body was larger than equivalent canons and I have big hands. Pick a manufacturer and make sure the body has its own focus motor. Some of the lower end bodies do not and this is an issue with some lenses. Other than that, go take pics.
Posted by Dirtman16
Madison, AL
Member since Nov 2012
410 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:22 am to
Yeah, a Canon 70d seems like a lot of camera for a novice. If you want DSLR, a Nikon D3300 or Canon Rebel SL1 maybe better choices with future lens purchases. You can always upgrade the body after you get more comfortable.

Also, if you don't expect to take lots of sports action or wildlife photography, let me suggest a mirror-less camera instead. They tend to be much more portable and have some advantages due to their electronic viewfinders (you can preview what the image will actually look like, etc.). Some good options there are the Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II, Fuji XT-10, and Sony a6000.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 10:24 am
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13429 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:54 am to
Go to Sam's/CostCo and check out what they have. We bought a new Canon last year from Sam's when one went on sale. I'd have to check to see what model, but we bought Canon because we already had a few lenses on our older Canon. There's no reason to spend a fortune on one. The body is the body, it is the lenses that make the difference.

It was a decent starter kit. Came with a pair of lenses. We had a 50 mm fixed already, and a zoom lens, but sold that when we started using the zoom that came in the kit. Nothing professional, just using it to take pics of the kids and on vacations. This one also takes video, but that eats up space quickly on the SD card. I think we have the 18-55 lens, the 50 mm, and a 75-300.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 12:30 pm to
Nikon D5500 might be right for you. High resolution for larger photos, and built in Wifi.



Might also look at Sony offerings. They have a lot of features for the buck.



I shoot a Pentax and Pentax & Nikon mid range cameras use the Sony sensor @ 24mp
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16678 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 12:56 pm to
Might want to checkout mirrorless options as well instead of investing in DSLR glass since you are late to the game. Agree with the above, look at olympus and sony. Nikon and Canon are still pushing DSLR for the most part.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 2:06 pm to
Sony Alpha A7II Mirrorless is the bellcow in that department IMO.

quote:


24.3MP Full-Frame Exmor CMOS Sensor
BIONZ X Image Processor
5-Axis SteadyShot INSIDE Stabilization
Enhanced Fast Hybrid AF and 5 fps Burst
Full HD XAVC S Video and S-Log2 Gamma
3.0" 1,228.8k-Dot Tilting LCD Monitor
XGA 2.36M-Dot OLED Electronic Viewfinder
Weather-Resistant Magnesium Alloy Body
Refined Grip & Robust Lens Mount
Built-In Wi-Fi Connectivity with NFC

Posted by nisa
Member since Jan 2015
6 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:05 am to
Do you have a brand prefer?
Posted by nisa
Member since Jan 2015
6 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:06 am to
Heard the Canon Ti series are good. You'd like to have a look

https://thedigitalcamera.net/canon-rebel-t5i-vs-t6i-vs-t6s-whats-the-difference/
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

. You can always upgrade the body after you get more comfortable.


Not if you want to upgrade to a full-frame body. I learned the hard way.
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
996 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Not if you want to upgrade to a full-frame body. I learned the hard way.


Yes you can..?
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:18 pm to
All of the cameras mentioned are crop cameras. Full-frame lenses and crop lenses are not compatible, at least not on a canon platform.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Full-frame lenses and crop lenses are not compatible, at least not on a canon platform.

Full frame lenses are compatible with APS-C camera bodies but not vice-versa . Something important to know when purchasing lenses.
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
996 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Full frame lenses are compatible with APS-C camera bodies but not vice-versa . Something important to know when purchasing lenses.



Yes, and if you do buy a quality APS-C lens it does hold its value for resale.

EF lenses are compatible for APS-C and FF cameras.
EF-S lenses are only for APS-C cameras.

This holds true for Canon, I am unsure about inferior Nikon products.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 5:06 pm
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:10 pm to
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Yes, and if you do buy a quality APS-C lens it does hold its value for resale.

A really good point. I'll add, if you buy used from a reputable source, even more so.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Do you have a brand prefer?


Pentax/Ricoh.

Any DSLR will take similarly good photos. Just find what you're comfortable using.
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