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re: Does anyone have kids that ride horses?
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:59 am to atchafalaya
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:59 am to atchafalaya
Ive rode horses since about 20 years old. I have fallen off many times, got kicked cleaning hooves, Had a horse rare up and fall back on top of me, Try to knock me off by rubbing trees or going under short branches, etc.
Now granted I just worked cows and trail rode but there is for sure an element of danger to it but mostly it was very enjoyable. Nothing like riding in a beautiful place with no motors and just enjoying nature. A horse can go more places than a four wheeler I can attest to that...
Now granted I just worked cows and trail rode but there is for sure an element of danger to it but mostly it was very enjoyable. Nothing like riding in a beautiful place with no motors and just enjoying nature. A horse can go more places than a four wheeler I can attest to that...
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:25 am to atchafalaya
My sister was #1 in the nation in her division while in high school. She just left for TCU and still trains out there. Used to travel all over (Georgia, Florida, New York) for shows.
Safety wise, they have lots of shite to mitigate risk. My sister had this vest that was connected to the saddle that would blow up and inflate in the event that she was bucked. Lots of shite like that
That being said, get your kids out now. Most expensive hobby there is. You'll pay 50-70k on the low end for a good horse, plus a trailer, travel fees, boarding fees, feeding, grooming, etc. it's a ridiculous amount of money to do it
Safety wise, they have lots of shite to mitigate risk. My sister had this vest that was connected to the saddle that would blow up and inflate in the event that she was bucked. Lots of shite like that
That being said, get your kids out now. Most expensive hobby there is. You'll pay 50-70k on the low end for a good horse, plus a trailer, travel fees, boarding fees, feeding, grooming, etc. it's a ridiculous amount of money to do it
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 10:29 am
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:26 am to atchafalaya
Horse are huge animals with a mind of their own, so riding is inherently risky. Anyone who rides long enough WILL fall off, it's just a matter of when.
Working with a trainer and taking precautions (appropriate horse, level, helmets, etc) can minimize the risks of injury, but the potential is always there.
The benefits outweigh the risks, IMO. Great lifelong sport, friendships, goals, etc. However, it is NOT cheap.
Working with a trainer and taking precautions (appropriate horse, level, helmets, etc) can minimize the risks of injury, but the potential is always there.
The benefits outweigh the risks, IMO. Great lifelong sport, friendships, goals, etc. However, it is NOT cheap.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:27 am to atchafalaya
My son is 12 and rides pretty often (western). He has been thrown 3 times, first 2 weren't that bad, but number 3 was pretty bad. He landed face first in the hard dirt road. I thought at first he had lost his eye but he didn't. Did break his arm though.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:29 am to Carson123987
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Most expensive hobby there is
Preach brotha!
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:34 am to Carson123987
Thanks for info everyone. Sounds like the worst injury has been a concussion and broke leg. I know there will be a lot of falls. I like hearing from the folks that have had good experience. She got thrown off horse yesterday and was a pretty bad spill but is ready to ride today. Horse just got spooked.
On the expense side, where are the major expenses coming from? My daughter doesn't have her own horse yet. When (if) she gets her own horse, will keep it at the horse center where she currently rides. Leasing also sounds interesting. Didn't know that was possible.
I guess the main expenses everyone is referring to are the trailering and fees and stays for out of town events/jumping/competitions?
Eta: thanks for breakdown Carson. That's not cheap, no. Lol.
On the expense side, where are the major expenses coming from? My daughter doesn't have her own horse yet. When (if) she gets her own horse, will keep it at the horse center where she currently rides. Leasing also sounds interesting. Didn't know that was possible.
I guess the main expenses everyone is referring to are the trailering and fees and stays for out of town events/jumping/competitions?
Eta: thanks for breakdown Carson. That's not cheap, no. Lol.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 9:37 am
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:39 am to atchafalaya
Ive rode and been around livestock all my life. Never dealt with English, Wester Pleasure, jumper, or anything like that. Mainly rodeo events.
Falling off hurts, especially on hard ground. The more you fall off, the more motivated you are to stay on.
Dealing with horses can be risky. Something as simple as a horse throwing his head while you're brushing him can knock teeth out. Its just part of it. keep your head on a swivel and don't become complacent
Ive been stepped on, thrown, and bit but never kicked or stomped. If a horse will stomp you, 'Caballo diablo". If a horse kicks you, then you did something wrong 9 unless cow kicked while saddling but you don't want one that will do that anyway)
Like others have said, hope you have deep pockets.
Falling off hurts, especially on hard ground. The more you fall off, the more motivated you are to stay on.
Dealing with horses can be risky. Something as simple as a horse throwing his head while you're brushing him can knock teeth out. Its just part of it. keep your head on a swivel and don't become complacent
Ive been stepped on, thrown, and bit but never kicked or stomped. If a horse will stomp you, 'Caballo diablo". If a horse kicks you, then you did something wrong 9 unless cow kicked while saddling but you don't want one that will do that anyway)
Like others have said, hope you have deep pockets.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:40 am to atchafalaya
I'm sure Aspy will chime in when she sees this as well.
First off, do you have a barn you are looking at for lessons? A lot of people call themselves "trainers" and most certainly aren't qualified.
Riding has it's risks. shite happens. I've been riding since I was 5 and I'm not quitting any time soon (I'm 32 now). I haven't had any major injuries so far even though I've been bucked off or flung over a jump many times. The more practice, the better the rider, the better at staying on they get.
Horses teach a lot besides riding. Kept me out of trouble as a kid. Taught me responsibility, respect and much more.
So yes, injuries can happen, but serious injuries are pretty rare IMO. A lot of the falls/injuries I see on FB and the like could have been prevented. That's why a knowledgeable trainer/barn is so important. They can teach proper horsemanship and how to watch and act around these huge animals.
First off, do you have a barn you are looking at for lessons? A lot of people call themselves "trainers" and most certainly aren't qualified.
Riding has it's risks. shite happens. I've been riding since I was 5 and I'm not quitting any time soon (I'm 32 now). I haven't had any major injuries so far even though I've been bucked off or flung over a jump many times. The more practice, the better the rider, the better at staying on they get.
Horses teach a lot besides riding. Kept me out of trouble as a kid. Taught me responsibility, respect and much more.
So yes, injuries can happen, but serious injuries are pretty rare IMO. A lot of the falls/injuries I see on FB and the like could have been prevented. That's why a knowledgeable trainer/barn is so important. They can teach proper horsemanship and how to watch and act around these huge animals.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:41 am to atchafalaya
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My daughter doesn't have her own horse yet.
Buying it, leasing another, doesnt matter. It is all going to cost a lot of money. Board, food, vet bills, training, etc.
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Leasing also sounds interesting. Didn't know that was possible.
Youd probably be better off buying a horse off the track. When you lease you are paying for all expenses and also paying to lease the horse itself. The owners sits back, collects the cash, and is covered under insurance.
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I guess the main expenses everyone is referring to are the trailering and fees and stays for out of town events/jumping/competitions?
It all adds up. Not to mention that all equipment is leather and EXTREMELY overpriced. Saddles can go from a couple hundred bucks to a couple thousand. Bridles, pads, clothing, jackets, boots, entry fees, gas, plane rides, hotel rooms, food.
But the absolute worst part is the bullshite horse drama. You thought women were bad enough already? This is a completely different animal.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:44 am to More beer please
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Youd probably be better off buying a horse off the track
NO NO NO NO NO.
Horses off the track are not good for first time horse owners or inexperienced riders. They are young and have been trained for one thing their whole life. After some retraining and time off the track, sure, but don't get one right off the track.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:45 am to More beer please
Please do not buy a horse off the track. Thoroughbreds are NOT good horses for beginners. Unless you are willing to pay big $$ to get the horse trained for a beginner.
People make this mistake all the time because OTTBs are cheap. Track training only is not appropriate for a beginner or people who are not "horse people". If you get a horse, pay a little more for a safe child mount.
Leasing is great because it gives you experience of owning a horse without actually owning it. You lease for a specific amount of time and generally pay all vet, farrier, feed, boarding bills. It will give you a good idea on what owning would cost.
Bills: training, lessons, feed, board, vet (routine and emergencies), trim or shoes every 6 weeks, shows, worming, supplements, equipment... Could go on.
People make this mistake all the time because OTTBs are cheap. Track training only is not appropriate for a beginner or people who are not "horse people". If you get a horse, pay a little more for a safe child mount.
Leasing is great because it gives you experience of owning a horse without actually owning it. You lease for a specific amount of time and generally pay all vet, farrier, feed, boarding bills. It will give you a good idea on what owning would cost.
Bills: training, lessons, feed, board, vet (routine and emergencies), trim or shoes every 6 weeks, shows, worming, supplements, equipment... Could go on.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:45 am to BBMcGee
You know thats what the wife did and it worked out
You see what I'm talking about? Always drama with these horse women
You see what I'm talking about? Always drama with these horse women
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:46 am to atchafalaya
The expenses will come from traveling, boarding, and the things associated with keeping a horse. When it comes to shows, you can pick and choose what shows to attend, and the trainer will give you a price up front for a show. Choose the shows close to you, so the prices won't be outrageous. The helmets, and chest protectors you can buy used a lot of the time, but don't skimp, get a good helmet.
When and if you decide to lease a horse at the barn, expect to pay a minimum of $500 a month.
When and if you decide to lease a horse at the barn, expect to pay a minimum of $500 a month.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:49 am to BBMcGee
My uncle gave me a retired 4 year old thoroughbred when I was a teenager. It wasn't my first horse, but it was the funnest horse I ever had. Stretching that sumbitch out on a turnrow and letting him fly was awesome
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:50 am to atchafalaya
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On the expense side, where are the major expenses coming from? My daughter doesn't have her own horse yet. When (if) she gets her own horse, will keep it at the horse center where she currently rides. Leasing also sounds interesting. Didn't know that was possible.
I guess the main expenses everyone is referring to are the trailering and fees and stays for out of town events/jumping/competitions?
Leasing is a great option before buying a horse. There are different lease options out there and it's usually cheaper than owning.
And yes, everything is expensive. I do local shows, not the big shows that MBP's wife does. She spent way more money than I did which is why he's so bitter
Here's about an average breakdown for a local show:
-hauling - depends on who hauls. I'd split diesel w/ my friends if I was hauling mine plus theirs. I paid $1/mile to my new trainer to haul since I moved and don't have access to my grandpaw's truck and trailer anymore.
-schooling fees for trainers - usually a little more than the actual lesson fee, but I don't know for sure. I have the "old rate" w/ my trainer b/c I've been with her for 20 years. the other kids get charged more.
-show fees - local shows can range from $150-300 depending on how many and what classes kid rides in. Rated shows range more like $600-2000 and up and up.
-hotel room for out of town shows. the local shows in louisiana are usually in covington/folsom.
so that doesn't include tack and show outfits and everything else.
that's why everyone with a horse is considered "horse poor" lol
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:51 am to BBMcGee
Hey bbmcgee she is currently at a good horse center/park with lot of horses and really good staff. All the girls training her ride themselves. I don't know much about the trainers except they are young, ride themselves and are accomplished and nice. She's 8 and has been riding for three years. Switched to English a few months ago and has been progressing fast and getting in her groove. She likes it.
Her first fall was yesterday. At first I thought concussion but nah, just face full of arena dirt and headache and hurt ankle.
The stables where she is at do a good job I think all around, in and out of arena. I agree that's important.
Her first fall was yesterday. At first I thought concussion but nah, just face full of arena dirt and headache and hurt ankle.
The stables where she is at do a good job I think all around, in and out of arena. I agree that's important.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:52 am to atchafalaya
Are you at Farr park...?
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:53 am to More beer please
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You know thats what the wife did and it worked out
1) T was NOT off the track. He was not even a TB.
2) your wife is an accomplished rider. She could get one right off the track no problem. Duh.
3) my old one was off the track a couple years before i got him when i was 14. i could handle him b/c i'd been riding for almost 10 years at that point. when i got the young one, i was too old to deal w/ off track shenanigans. lol
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:54 am to BBMcGee
Whoa, hey old pal.
I meant hay...because, on topic and everything.
I meant hay...because, on topic and everything.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:54 am to atchafalaya
yea, are you at brec? one of my besties is a trainer there.
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