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Professional dog training ?
Posted on 8/23/15 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 8/23/15 at 5:46 pm
Just made a 14 1/2 hour round trip to drop the pup (6 1/2 month) at his two month training before a South Dakota wild bird baptism.
If you have used a trainer, how good was your dog when you dropped off vs pick up? The trainer said the first month would be spent on basics (gun shots, here, kennel, whoa), all of which I have introduced, but he has not mastered yet. The second month is bird introduction, pointing, backing, steady to flush and retrieving to hand.
If you have used a trainer, how good was your dog when you dropped off vs pick up? The trainer said the first month would be spent on basics (gun shots, here, kennel, whoa), all of which I have introduced, but he has not mastered yet. The second month is bird introduction, pointing, backing, steady to flush and retrieving to hand.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:03 pm to Britlab
progress really depends heavily on the dog...some have it, others don't...a good trainer can bring out all of the instinct and potential that is there, though. I have seen some remarkable changes as well as almost no progress...
Posted on 8/23/15 at 6:25 pm to Spankum
He's a wire haired pointing griffon.
Trainer said he would know after the first month if "this dog will hunt." He said he would tell me to pick him up and not waste the money for more training. After he met the pup and we spoke about what I have done, and more importantly, not done with pup, he was encouraged. He said most pups which do not take well to training have been started poorly. I'm not looking for dog to be entered/ compete in hunt tests etc, so my expectations are not too high.
Trainer said he would know after the first month if "this dog will hunt." He said he would tell me to pick him up and not waste the money for more training. After he met the pup and we spoke about what I have done, and more importantly, not done with pup, he was encouraged. He said most pups which do not take well to training have been started poorly. I'm not looking for dog to be entered/ compete in hunt tests etc, so my expectations are not too high.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 7:50 pm to Britlab
After his baptism, drop him off for another 2 mos if you want to truly have a well rounded dog.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 8:23 pm to 2indapink
The plan would be to drop him off at the trainer again after quail season ends in early February and and pick him up last weekend in March for one final preserve hunt. And I thought the purchase of the puppy was pricy.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 8:37 pm to Britlab
With labs, I find there's still a learning curve, even after a full 6 months training. Hunting in the field is a whole different ball game than training, or even a hunt test.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 8:43 pm to Jim Rockford
You won't have a true picture in two months. It's simply not long enough to get a finished dog of any sort. You should see some progress, but don't expect him to be perfect after two months.
Also when you pick him up if possible spend a week with your dog and the trainer so you have a full understanding of what the trainer has done and what your dog has learned so you can be SURE to hold up the standards set by your trainer during hunting season. There is so much excitement for the dog they learn bad habits QUICK hunting and that can be hard to fix.
Also when you pick him up if possible spend a week with your dog and the trainer so you have a full understanding of what the trainer has done and what your dog has learned so you can be SURE to hold up the standards set by your trainer during hunting season. There is so much excitement for the dog they learn bad habits QUICK hunting and that can be hard to fix.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 9:50 pm to Da Hammer
Good advice all. The trip to South Dakota will be with an English setter who is a rock star in the field, hopefully he will get a good start with wild birds.
I'm not looking for perfection, just a one solid point, kill shot, retrieve, campfire, and a good glass of brown liquor.
I'm not looking for perfection, just a one solid point, kill shot, retrieve, campfire, and a good glass of brown liquor.
Posted on 8/23/15 at 9:54 pm to Britlab
A whole 2 months of training, good luck with that. Hunts will be a shite show
Posted on 8/24/15 at 1:21 am to Triggerr
I can't imagine hunting a full season in our marsh over a lab with only 2 mos of training. No ideas about a griffon though
Posted on 8/24/15 at 8:35 am to Triggerr
2 months is barely enough time for a young dog to develop a solid foundation in obedience. That's not to say you won't end up with an awesome dog, but you might need to stem your expectations a bit for 2 just months of work.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 10:34 am to bluemoons
If his first trip afield is with a seasoned dog make sure the trainer knows this and teaches him to honor the older dog. Or that setter is gonna whip his azz and he will be forever scarred.
Like Hammer stated, get the trainer to go over the commands he plans on using and you need to spend time with the dog and trainer to go over everything you can think of and address any shortcomings. And you will need at least 4 mos w'a pro and then work at least 4-6x a mo yr round.
Like Hammer stated, get the trainer to go over the commands he plans on using and you need to spend time with the dog and trainer to go over everything you can think of and address any shortcomings. And you will need at least 4 mos w'a pro and then work at least 4-6x a mo yr round.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:32 am to Britlab
Did you look up any trainers in your local area?
No way I would ever drive 14 hours to drop my dog off. A big part of the training is being able to work with the trainer one on one with your dog, so you know the style of training he uses.
I sent 2 of my GSP's to Steve Riggins with Bear Creek on the Bayou Retrievers in Slaughter, LA, they were there for 4 months, and was very satisfied with how they worked when I got them back. He's only about an hour from Baton Rouge, so i was able to go to his place quite often and learned a lot about training dogs.
No way I would ever drive 14 hours to drop my dog off. A big part of the training is being able to work with the trainer one on one with your dog, so you know the style of training he uses.
I sent 2 of my GSP's to Steve Riggins with Bear Creek on the Bayou Retrievers in Slaughter, LA, they were there for 4 months, and was very satisfied with how they worked when I got them back. He's only about an hour from Baton Rouge, so i was able to go to his place quite often and learned a lot about training dogs.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 11:50 am to JTM72
Steve is a great trainer. I worked with him in our club when I was younger.
Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:17 pm to Britlab
Two months will get one force fetched. Bout it
Posted on 8/24/15 at 12:18 pm to Britlab
Oh, don't know about bird dogs
Posted on 8/24/15 at 1:32 pm to Jerry Curl
Thanks for all the responses. Let me clear something up. I understand this is just a puppy and I have few expectations for any kind of polished field work. You have to begin somewhere and having started him with behavior, I am hopeful by spending a couple months with the trainer and pen birds, the light may start to come on. I am a big believer in wild birds for upland dogs. What better place to bring a then 9 month old pup, than South Dakota? He will then hunt over a few wild quail here and in Kansas till he returns to the trainer in February for two more months.
I enlisted help from the trainer while I was still on the waiting list for aforementioned pup. He gave me the breakdown on all of his do's and dont's. The trainer and I have spent several days talking about methods he has used for the several griffons he has trained and what I should do to correctly start the pup. Tennessee is not a hot bed of upland bird dog trainers and much homework was done before selecting my choice. I will definitely spend a day at least before making the return trip in October.
I enlisted help from the trainer while I was still on the waiting list for aforementioned pup. He gave me the breakdown on all of his do's and dont's. The trainer and I have spent several days talking about methods he has used for the several griffons he has trained and what I should do to correctly start the pup. Tennessee is not a hot bed of upland bird dog trainers and much homework was done before selecting my choice. I will definitely spend a day at least before making the return trip in October.
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