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re: Best Case Scenario for LSU
Posted on 6/15/15 at 9:50 am to ell_13
Posted on 6/15/15 at 9:50 am to ell_13
Agreed, best cast scenario is to have LSU only needing to beat Vanderbilt once with TCU losing to CSF and LSU only needing to beat TCU once.
By that time LSU can take a deep breath regroup and focus on one team in CSF both Friday and Saturday.
Don't get me wrong a daunting task but both Oregon St '06 and South Carolina '10 have won it all after dropping the opener.
With this being said Chinea, Hale, Laird, and Scivique must wake up with the bats or we're just talking game for no reason.
By that time LSU can take a deep breath regroup and focus on one team in CSF both Friday and Saturday.
Don't get me wrong a daunting task but both Oregon St '06 and South Carolina '10 have won it all after dropping the opener.
With this being said Chinea, Hale, Laird, and Scivique must wake up with the bats or we're just talking game for no reason.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 10:07 am to BayouBengals03
quote:He only threw 6 innings yesterday. 3, 4, or 5 won't matter very much. He's still going to be very good. It's about the guys after him.
On three days rest? Wouldn't we welcome that?
quote:It's an elimination game. And let's not pretend Poche is comparable at all to someone like Eshelman.
ETA: And how do you know this? It's not like we're going to throw Poché on Thursday
Posted on 6/15/15 at 10:20 am to PeaRidgeWatash
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if we can get to Fullerton to win the bracket, it's our best option.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 10:31 am to ell_13
How big of an advantage is it for us that the Vandy/CSF game was suspended? They both have to use an extra pitcher, yes?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 10:44 am to Box Geauxrilla
Yes and that 11 am game is STILL delayed, they're going to attempt to finish this and play 2 at 2 pm, then both games 55 min after the previous one.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:14 am to lsuhunt555
I agree, you don't want to face Cal St #1 SP so getting them in the losers bracket is key
Best scenario is Vandy, Cal St, TCU, TCU and then anyone but Florida
Best scenario is Vandy, Cal St, TCU, TCU and then anyone but Florida
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 11:17 am
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:22 am to tzimme4
If any of those scenario's work out and LSU can fight themselves back into the championship game. Would they have the arms to beat let's say UF twice?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:26 am to tzimme4
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Best scenario is Vandy, Cal St, TCU, TCU
I would rather get the weakest offensive opponent in our bracket to beat without our best pitchers.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:27 am to tzimme4
quote:I'm telling you... you will regardless.
you don't want to face Cal St #1 SP
Vandy, TCU, Cal, Cal is what we want.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:29 am to ell_13
Not if Vandy comes back. That game isn't over yet.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:59 am to ell_13
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And Cal St. only has only Eshelman, who we would have to face, but if we get passed him, our chances are much better in game 2.
Easier said than done considering our hitters seem to make a concerted effort to hack away at the first pitch and avoid working the count or making the pitcher work for it.
Eshelman could feasibly pitch into the 12th with the way we work pitch counts.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:02 pm to aaronb023
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They'd pitch him on short rest if it means the end of their season. I expect us to do the same
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:34 pm to ell_13
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Vandy is the best team in this side of the bracket. Best chance at beating them is if they face Lange.
If they are the best team in the bracket (i.e. better than TCU), we aren't beating them no matter who is on the mound.
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2) TCU loses to Cal St.
So TCU is, in theory, the third best team in the bracket, and that is somehow supposed to be a good scenario for us?
The only scenario in which we win even one game before going home is if Vandy and Fullerton are both on or below our level (i.e. WAY below TCU).
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:37 pm to Nuts4LSU
You are retarded if you think 1 game makes one team "better" or that the best team always wins. Is that seriously the point you are trying to make?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:43 pm to ell_13
Agreed Ell, nailed it as always.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:48 pm to ell_13
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You are retarded if you think 1 game makes one team "better" or that the best team always wins. Is that seriously the point you are trying to make?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:02 pm to ell_13
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best team always wins
No, the best team doesn't always win. Sometimes they get unlucky or strange things happen and they lose. Usually, when the best team loses for strange or unlucky reasons, they still LOOK like the best team even though they lost. TCU hit better, pitched better, fielded better and was better coached than LSU. LSU was not a superior team that got unlucky. We were an inferior team that got our butts kicked.
We have an established pattern over several years of collapsing in the postseason. Playing badly when the stakes are highest is not a fluke, it's an LSU habit these days. And it's why TCU is a better team than LSU today just like yesterday.
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:11 pm to ell_13
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He only threw 6 innings yesterday.
95 pitches.
I think it's incorrect to 100% assume he will throw in a potential elimination game on Thursday.
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:16 pm to Nuts4LSU
Now you are talking about LSU when you were trying to make points about TCU and Vandy.
Vandy is the best team in our bracket. We benefit if they lose. We can beat them with Lange.
I think we are better than TCU and CSF. Did we play better? Of course not. Anyone can see that. But again, one game doesn't determine that.
Vandy is the best team in our bracket. We benefit if they lose. We can beat them with Lange.
I think we are better than TCU and CSF. Did we play better? Of course not. Anyone can see that. But again, one game doesn't determine that.
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