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re: Pelicans receive permission to speak with Alvin Gentry
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:44 pm to corndeaux
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:44 pm to corndeaux
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Terry Stotts and Doc Rivers had losing records before finding success. Rick Carlisle was fired from 2 jobs before finding a place in Dallas.
Doc spent 4 years in Orlando before going to boston.
Coach of the year his second season, never had a losing record.
Stotts won't be a head coach for long, was never good, still isn't good.
Rick Carlisle has always been a great head coach. He was extremely successful in Detroit and indiana.
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there's far too much riding on the next few years to take a chance on a young guy.
or a guy with a resume like Gentry.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 6:28 am to TeddyPadillac
Lots and lots of revisionist history here.
Coach of the year means jack shite. Byron Scott won it too. Plus playing .500 ball is now an accomplishment? And Doc had a career losing record (273-312) until they got Garnett and Allen. He was not well regarded at all until Ubuntu. Even that year, most thought he was still shaky.
You're praising Rivers for staying around .500 in Orlando, but dumping on Stotts for back to back 50 win seasons in the West? This board never disappoints.
Never said he didn't win. Just that he got fired twice. You are not that successful if two franchises kick you to the curb within 4 years.
The point, which flew over your head, was that coaches can develop over time too. Like most things, you usually have to fail to improve. And context matters as much as anything (see C.O.Y. award history).
That doesn't mean Gentry is the hire or will be great. His track record is not stellar. But that record also doesn't preclude him from being very good
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Doc spent 4 years in Orlando before going to boston.
Coach of the year his second season, never had a losing record.
Coach of the year means jack shite. Byron Scott won it too. Plus playing .500 ball is now an accomplishment? And Doc had a career losing record (273-312) until they got Garnett and Allen. He was not well regarded at all until Ubuntu. Even that year, most thought he was still shaky.
quote:
Stotts won't be a head coach for long, was never good, still isn't good.
You're praising Rivers for staying around .500 in Orlando, but dumping on Stotts for back to back 50 win seasons in the West? This board never disappoints.
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Rick Carlisle has always been a great head coach. He was extremely successful in Detroit and indiana.
Never said he didn't win. Just that he got fired twice. You are not that successful if two franchises kick you to the curb within 4 years.
The point, which flew over your head, was that coaches can develop over time too. Like most things, you usually have to fail to improve. And context matters as much as anything (see C.O.Y. award history).
That doesn't mean Gentry is the hire or will be great. His track record is not stellar. But that record also doesn't preclude him from being very good
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 6:30 am
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