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Ex Machina is the best movie I’ve see in years SPOILERS
Posted on 5/10/15 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 5/10/15 at 8:03 pm
The best since No Country For Old Men in 2007. What an experience. This, for me, was one of those rare, magical theater experiences. I found myself smiling throughout its entirety, marveling at how well-written, well-shot, well-acted, and well-scored it was. Like Baloo said, it’s not afraid to be smart, and it doesn’t baby the audience. Tons of great themes and ideas that keep you thinking long after the credits finish rolling. My dad, my sister, and I talked about it for over an hour after leaving the theater. Christopher Nolan needs to take notes from Garland. This isn’t some pseudo-intellectual hoopla that blazes through explanations.
If you haven’t seen this, do yourself a favor and go.
SPOILERS
We, the audience, get duped just like Caleb did. We were an indirect human component of the Turing test, and, although the ending is foreshadowed far in advance, we still hold on to a small semblance of hope that Ava is more than a machine. She passes the Turing test, to us. Absolutely brilliant. You’re given so many clues as to how it will end, but you’re left guessing the entire time and it ends up being so much more than that.
Question:
Ava mentions charging her batteries as a method of inducing the power outages. Do you think that her needing to charge is true, or a lie she came up with? If it’s true, then she dooms herself at at the end by leaving. Lots of people online are saying shite like “she’s smart enough to figure out how to charge,” but I think the ending is more beautiful if she leaves knowing that she will eventually die, forsaking herself so that she can escape the black and white room and see the world.
If you haven’t seen this, do yourself a favor and go.
SPOILERS
We, the audience, get duped just like Caleb did. We were an indirect human component of the Turing test, and, although the ending is foreshadowed far in advance, we still hold on to a small semblance of hope that Ava is more than a machine. She passes the Turing test, to us. Absolutely brilliant. You’re given so many clues as to how it will end, but you’re left guessing the entire time and it ends up being so much more than that.
Question:
Ava mentions charging her batteries as a method of inducing the power outages. Do you think that her needing to charge is true, or a lie she came up with? If it’s true, then she dooms herself at at the end by leaving. Lots of people online are saying shite like “she’s smart enough to figure out how to charge,” but I think the ending is more beautiful if she leaves knowing that she will eventually die, forsaking herself so that she can escape the black and white room and see the world.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 4:00 pm
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Posted on 5/10/15 at 8:14 pm to Carson123987
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Ava mentions charging her batteries as a method of inducing the power outages. Do you think that her needing to charge is true, or a lie she came up with? If it’s true, then she dooms herself at at the end by leaving. Lots of people online are saying shite like “she’s smart enough to figure out how to charge,” but I think the ending is more beautiful if she leaves knowing that she will eventually die, forsaking herself so that she can escape the black and white room and see the world.
I believe it was her figuring out a way to trick Caleb. Ava knew that her sessions w/ Caleb were being recorded. So she only had a few minutes to get her point across to him.
Weirdly enough I'm okay with her living forever.
So far this is the best film I've seen this year. I went into this film with a high expectations and Garland delivered in every way. IDK if this will win any awards. But I'm rooting for it to.
This post was edited on 5/10/15 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 5/10/15 at 8:20 pm to Carson123987
SPOILERS
First, I just want to say the Oscar Isaac dance scene was amazing. Seeing it before that leaked all over the internet was absolutely worth the cost of admission.
I would say it was a lie that went back to her programming. She was truly built to survive first and foremost. I think what struck me most was how well she passed as human, but at the end of the movie you see that she lacked any semblance of what makes a human tick. The way she just calmly looked at Nathan when she/Kyoko murdered him, and then how she didn't even look at Caleb as he pounded on the door screaming while she entered the elevator was eerie. No sense of humanity at all.
The only fault I had with this movie was the helicopter pilot at the end of the movie having no questions or problems with a random woman showing up instead of Caleb.
First, I just want to say the Oscar Isaac dance scene was amazing. Seeing it before that leaked all over the internet was absolutely worth the cost of admission.
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Do you think that her needing to charge is true, or a lie she came up with?
I would say it was a lie that went back to her programming. She was truly built to survive first and foremost. I think what struck me most was how well she passed as human, but at the end of the movie you see that she lacked any semblance of what makes a human tick. The way she just calmly looked at Nathan when she/Kyoko murdered him, and then how she didn't even look at Caleb as he pounded on the door screaming while she entered the elevator was eerie. No sense of humanity at all.
The only fault I had with this movie was the helicopter pilot at the end of the movie having no questions or problems with a random woman showing up instead of Caleb.
This post was edited on 5/10/15 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 5/10/15 at 8:28 pm to Carson123987
A simply incredible movie. Nathan I think may be one of my top 10 favorite characters ever. The guy is likable, awkward, despicable, and highly awkward, and he could achieve all of this in under 10 seconds. You can cut the tension in this film with a butter knife. It is one of the most intense movies I've ever seen, and it's not because of death, but just in the dialog and the singleness to it.
I fell for it too hook, line, and sinker, and was hoping Caleb and Ava would just leave together with Nathan dead. This movie is fricking brilliant and a type of AI movie I've wanted to see for years, with the AI simply not out to kill everyone. Between this an Interstellar, we've had a fantastic few months of sci-fi. Now, make a realistic film on the Singularity (ie: no doomsday scenario), and then the sci-fi films I've been petitioning for years will be complete.
I fell for it too hook, line, and sinker, and was hoping Caleb and Ava would just leave together with Nathan dead. This movie is fricking brilliant and a type of AI movie I've wanted to see for years, with the AI simply not out to kill everyone. Between this an Interstellar, we've had a fantastic few months of sci-fi. Now, make a realistic film on the Singularity (ie: no doomsday scenario), and then the sci-fi films I've been petitioning for years will be complete.
This post was edited on 5/10/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 5/10/15 at 8:32 pm to Carson123987
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Ex Machina is the best movie I’ve see in years
Better than Avengers??
Posted on 5/10/15 at 8:38 pm to Carson123987
it's kewl and all,, great production value, but as far as the story not a whole lot that is really that new, most of the concepts have been done before.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 1:42 pm to Carson123987
Still haven't gotten to see this movie. It's at the top of the list though.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:32 pm to Carson123987
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Like Baloo said, it’s not afraid to be smart
Simply a well written review of a film that has fantastic chops!
I think I hit all of the used up movie / tv board cliches.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:03 pm to Carson123987
going to see it tonight 
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:07 pm to Carson123987
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The best since No Country For Old Men in 2007.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 4:06 pm to Carson123987
Haven't seen it yet but it's definitely on my must watch list.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:17 pm to Carson123987
Just finished this, and I really enjoyed it. Thought the writing was excellent. It didn't try to do anything too much.
What I really loved were its many parallels to different historical and mythological events. My (somewhat obvious) favorite was that of the evolution of created to creator, and the inevitable destruction of the creator by the newly created. It's a tale as old as evolution on one level, but also an homage to what humanity throughout the years has decided to believe in spiritually.
The score was beautiful, the shots were tasteful, the writing (as stated before was wonderful). However, as for major character arcs it was fairly lackluster.
A very solid 8.5/10
For a debut director that is quite phenomenal.
What I really loved were its many parallels to different historical and mythological events. My (somewhat obvious) favorite was that of the evolution of created to creator, and the inevitable destruction of the creator by the newly created. It's a tale as old as evolution on one level, but also an homage to what humanity throughout the years has decided to believe in spiritually.
The score was beautiful, the shots were tasteful, the writing (as stated before was wonderful). However, as for major character arcs it was fairly lackluster.
A very solid 8.5/10
For a debut director that is quite phenomenal.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:26 pm to Carson123987
Great flick b1tch was wicked smaht
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:49 pm to Carson123987
It doesn't seem that most people got the part about Caleb also being an "a.i." ....
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:54 am to Carson123987
It looks like it could be interesting. I'm sure I'll check it out at some point once it becomes available online.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:03 pm to Carson123987
Up vote. 
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:19 pm to Carson123987
What an incredible ride! What a rush! Great movie. I went and saw it today on the advice of this thread.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:26 pm to Carson123987
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Ava mentions charging her batteries as a method of inducing the power outages. Do you think that her needing to charge is true, or a lie she came up with? If it’s true, then she dooms herself at at the end by leaving. Lots of people online are saying shite like “she’s smart enough to figure out how to charge,” but I think the ending is more beautiful if she leaves knowing that she will eventually die, forsaking herself so that she can escape the black and white room and see the world.
Whether she truly needs to recharge or not doesn't matter. In fact, I never gave it a second thought.
She's going to live forever.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 4:02 pm to Carson123987
Just watched this and thought it was great. I wondered about the recharge issue as well.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 4:28 pm to Carson123987
I thought it was pretty good.
ETA: if I had one criticism it would be that Caleb reprogrammed the computers the night before. I don't know. I just felt like it went a little overboard with the back and forth "I outsmarted you", "No, I outsmarted you" stuff. Other than that I thought it was a solid, well made, well acted movie.
ETA: if I had one criticism it would be that Caleb reprogrammed the computers the night before. I don't know. I just felt like it went a little overboard with the back and forth "I outsmarted you", "No, I outsmarted you" stuff. Other than that I thought it was a solid, well made, well acted movie.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 5:05 pm
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