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re: Game of Thrones S5E4 "Sons of the Harpy" (Bookish Types; SPOILERS)
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:54 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:54 pm to OMLandshark
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To be honest I find it hard to believe that no one else would have figured it out, particularly Tywin and Varys. Tywin is a shrewd and calculating man who didn't want to risk the Targaryens rising again after all he's done. I think he'd notice 3 of the Kingsguard being killed by honorable Ned Stark and his men and think there was something highly suspicious about it. The Kingsguard being there with Lyanna Stark instead of Viserys is a big red flag in all of this. Judging from the conversation Ned had with the Kingsguard, neither beat around the bush on what is up those stairs and Ned was clearly tipped off by someone on where they were and what he would find when he got there.
Ned knew where to find her. What makes you think he knew what he would find? I may just be forgetting something. While I don't disagree there are things that would probably raise eyebrows, it doesn't seem like anybody actually put the clues together. Otherwise, I think we would have heard some things about it by now.
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Varys though I don't think would have bought for an instant Ned's story, and think that Robert's comment with dragonspawn and Tywin's previous massacres as reasons for protecting Jon as his bastard.
Varys never struck me as someone who could figure things out like that. Maybe Tyrion, but not Varys. Varys's information comes from his spies. I really doubt any were a witness to what happened.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 6:55 pm
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 7:05 pm to ohiovol
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Ned knew where to find her. What makes you think he knew what he would find?
The Tower of Joy:
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“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”
“Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell.
“But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.”
“Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm.
“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold.
They're clearly not beating around the bush on what Ned will find up those stairs. Plus Ned went there with his 7 most trusted men instead of an army. Ser Arthur had a sad smile on his face because he knew Ned was tipped off to him. I think it's none other than Ashara Dayne who did it since Willa is Jon Snow's wet nurse and more than one person pulled Ned off of Lyanna's body. If Ned simply thought Lyanna was there, he would have brought his army with him. Ned certainly knew he'd find his sister with Lyanna's child there with the remaining members of the Kingsguard.
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Varys never struck me as someone who could figure things out like that. Maybe Tyrion, but not Varys. Varys's information comes from his spies. I really doubt any were a witness to what happened.
Varys is very clever and doesn't let things like lust or tales cloud his judgement. I just think this is the type of story Varys would immediately see through. LF, while he may be the most intelligent character in the series (Aemon may be slightly more so), he wouldn't see through this due to his arrogance.
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