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re: Klopp is leaving Dortmund

Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:57 pm to

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Perhaps. IMO this season was more of an aberration than a sign of things to come for Dortmund.


I don't disagree but from the times I've watched Dortmund it seems that the midfield and backline were really struggling to press to the level that system absolutely demands, from a physical and quickness standpoint.


People talk about losing forwards because people like to focus on forwards but the real difference from what I've seen is midfield and defense.

They are all a step too slow in reacting and it makes the whole tactics often look like desperation pressing from a side trailing in added time.

Since it's pretty much all experienced players under Klopp in those positions, one wonders if there's some mental/physical wear and tear involved and that it's not a system better for 20-25 year olds than even players their mid to late 20s.



Maybe this isn't the case at all but although Dortmund were snake bit by injuries at times this season, when I've watched it's just as often been a midfielder not pressing quickly enough to cut off an angle and/or then Subotic and Hummels arriving a half step late for a desperation step in and getting turned for jailbreak after jailbreak etc etc that's been the issue.




This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 3:08 pm to
Ive watched a good amount of their matches this year.

It just looks like they don't play as a cohesive unit at all this season.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15968 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

I don't disagree but from the times I've watched Dortmund it seems that the midfield and backline were really struggling to press to the level that system absolutely demands, from a physical and quickness standpoint.


People talk about losing forwards because people like to focus on forwards but the real difference from what I've seen is midfield and defense.

They are all a step too slow in reacting and it makes the whole tactics often look like desperation pressing from a side trailing in added time.

Since it's pretty much all experienced players under Klopp in those positions, one wonders if there's some mental/physical wear and tear involved and that it's not a system better for 20-25 year olds than even players their mid to late 20s.



Maybe this isn't the case at all but although Dortmund were snake bit by injuries at times this season, when I've watched it's just as often been a midfielder not pressing quickly enough to cut off an angle and/or then Subotic and Hummels arriving a half step late for a desperation step in and getting turned for jailbreak after jailbreak etc etc that's been the issue.

The forwards are worth talking about, because they haven't scored many goals this season (I thought Immobile would be a huge signing for them), but I think you're on to something with wear and tear in this system.

Klopp has tinkered with formations and lineups this season, which might be evidence that he knows his bread-and-butter isn't working like it used to, but hasn't figured out how else to use players meant to work within his system. He even remarked in his press conference that he was no longer the perfect manager for Dortmund.


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