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Matt Moore Bringing the Crazy Talk, what this team is missing is Aminu
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 10:58 am
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Hardwood Paroxysm @HPbasketball 16 minutes ago
Want to get five Mavs fans and five Pelicans fans in a room to talk about Al-Farouq Aminu.
The best part is the biggest thing the Pelicans need is exactly what Mavs fans love that AFA is giving them, but Pels fans refuse to concede
And yet he’s doing in Dallas what they need in New Orleans RT @BreesInDaCut: @HPbasketball im pretty sure nobody here misses Aminu
ya see? crazy RT @PappaJoegio: Aminu is garbage. I'm completely satisfied with QPon, has many intangibles that AFA couldn't dream of.
They have the 7th best offense in the NBA. RT @MunirTheGreat: @HPbasketball don't the pelicans need spacing?
“THE SPACING WON’T ANYONE THINK OF THE SPACING!” You’re 7th in offense and 26th in defense. Where do you think your need is?
While I agree with the general principle that defense is the biggest problem, specifically our porous perimeter defense, Chief ain't shutting down the long list of quick combo guards that have gone off on the Pels since Jrue went down.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:01 am to TigerinATL
We are missing Aminu... I would rather a random fan every night get a spot on the bench then Aminu.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:05 am to TigerinATL
Yeah I have really never understood why Matt Moore thinks Aminu would help us so much. Aminu has a very specific skill set/role and the Mavs are using it right because they have the players (a lot of good shooters) to surround him with. Think of an offense featuring Asik, Tyreke and Aminu all at once. That would be a complete dumpster fire.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:07 am to Swank
aminu's destiny is small-ball power forward
could we use him? yes
but dallas has better shooters to play along side him
could we use him? yes
but dallas has better shooters to play along side him
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:08 am to Swank
Give me QPon & Cunningham over AFA all day
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:10 am to Swank
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Think of an offense featuring Asik, Tyreke and Aminu all at once. That would be a complete dumpster fire.
I don't have to think of it, we saw it last year with Stiemsma in Asik's place. But again I think the flawed thinking is 2 fold. First thinking Aminu is a significantly better defender than Cunningham. I'll concede better rebounder but I don't think they're that far off in terms of defending the 3/4. Second, Aminu defends the 3/4 and our problem has been stopping 1/2. Giannis was always going to get his last night, the problem was giving MCW enough open 15 footers to make him look like a good shooter which he isn't.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:12 am to Swank
I fail to understand how he doesn't see the spacing issue.
Qpon/dante are just more competent players and he's missing the fact that the mavs have a lot more veteran leaders. Qpon's exp is very valuable and he can hit a 3 at least.
Qpon/dante are just more competent players and he's missing the fact that the mavs have a lot more veteran leaders. Qpon's exp is very valuable and he can hit a 3 at least.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:16 am to NorthshoreTiger76
Further flawed thinking, Moore points out how Dallas' top defensive lineups feature Aminu, as evidence of Aminu's game changing defense. We had Aminu last season and still had a bottom 5 defense. Season before that too.
And I'm not trying to rip on Moore, he's one of the few national guys that actually watches the Pels regularly and gives thoughtful commentary on them, I just think he's very wrong on this point.
And I'm not trying to rip on Moore, he's one of the few national guys that actually watches the Pels regularly and gives thoughtful commentary on them, I just think he's very wrong on this point.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:18 am to LosLobos111
This is very silly. Our season started turning when we acquired Dante. Then got better before the Davis injury with QPon. Now we are playing our best basketball after acquiring Cole. It's not always about stats. The team is just plain smarter since these 3 arrived.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:18 am to TigerinATL
They also have carlisle
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:22 am to TigerinATL
He's being a jerk to Pels fans!
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:30 am to TigerinATL
Yeah we pretty much have the exact same thoughts on this. Matt Moore is probably my favorite national guy, but I just think he is wrong here. Also I know what happened last year with the Steamer, I just try to block out the fact that he played for this team.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:34 am to LosLobos111
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They also have carlisle
It really doesn't take much effort to go look up the jump from NOP to DAL for Aminu or the decline for certain players like Cunningham.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:46 am to ShamelessPel
Fisher getting his panties in a bunch
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:57 am to quail man
quote:
Hardwood Paroxysm @HPbasketball I understand how bad of a mistake “The Pelicans should have kept AFA” is for a hill to die on, but here I am. This is my life.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:59 am to quail man
I think this is being pretty poorly argued on both sides. Moore is basically saying Pels are good on offense, bad on defense and Aminu is good on defense. It's just not that simple, he doesn't defend the position that's killing us.
Last 5 losses leading scorers
Boston - Isaiah Thomas 27
Dallas - Ellis with 20, Rondo with 19
Orlando - Oladipo 22
Indy - George Hill 17, David West 17
Utah - Gordon Hayward 32
So in the last 5 losses Aminu would have been helpful slowing down Gordon Hayward. I'd probably give him a shot at Oladipo too. The other guys that lead their teams to victory over the Pels are small combo guards and that isn't really his area of expertise.
Last 5 losses leading scorers
Boston - Isaiah Thomas 27
Dallas - Ellis with 20, Rondo with 19
Orlando - Oladipo 22
Indy - George Hill 17, David West 17
Utah - Gordon Hayward 32
So in the last 5 losses Aminu would have been helpful slowing down Gordon Hayward. I'd probably give him a shot at Oladipo too. The other guys that lead their teams to victory over the Pels are small combo guards and that isn't really his area of expertise.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:07 pm to TigerinATL
But also the Pels were bad on defense last year too. So Moore's argument that they are 26th in defense this year doesn't help. They were 25th last year. Whooptie fricking doo
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:12 pm to quail man
And the year before. This is another stupid internet "My hypothetical best case scenario > Your IRL results"
He also undermined his argument by responding to a "we're missing Holiday" with "the defense was bad before he went down." He's an admitted Holiday fan and says he's a plus defender, but somehow where Jrue failed to make our team defense good, Aminu will succeed, even though he failed to do so the past 2 years.
He also undermined his argument by responding to a "we're missing Holiday" with "the defense was bad before he went down." He's an admitted Holiday fan and says he's a plus defender, but somehow where Jrue failed to make our team defense good, Aminu will succeed, even though he failed to do so the past 2 years.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:16 pm to TigerinATL
precisely. Too bad you only get about 125 characters when tweeting to him otherwise it would be a lot easier to have this conversation. Every time I bring up points like this to Moore he never responds. Oh well.
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