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I'm surprised Hollywood liked Whiplash
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:26 pm
A movie that promotes the idea that verbal and physical abuse can work as a motivating tool. Goes against our world of giving out trophies for participation and "trying your best."
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:38 pm to Cosmo
I saw it last night and loved it. I was also shocked they liked it. Not only did he bully a lot with physical\verbal abuse he also used a lot of homosexual insults.
I guess homosexual stuff was last year and now they are more focused on racism this year ??
I guess homosexual stuff was last year and now they are more focused on racism this year ??
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:48 pm to Cosmo
The movie didn't really go either way.
The dude got fired, and the other kid killed himself.
What I love about this movie is that it's just trying to tell a good story.
It's not trying to say anything.
The dude got fired, and the other kid killed himself.
What I love about this movie is that it's just trying to tell a good story.
It's not trying to say anything.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:52 pm to Cosmo
Is this movie basically the first part of Full Metal Jacket with JK Simmons as Sgt Hartman and Miles Teller as Pvt Pyle?
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:00 pm to Dr. Shultz
Oh i enjoyed it. Just surpsrised Hollywood didnt turn on it like ZDT
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:13 pm to Cosmo
I just watched the movie. I am an old band guy and I can really appreciate what the movie was about. Some of the meanest but greatest motivators that I've ever known have been music teachers. To this day, I still look fondly at my music days. Especially my years at LSU school of music.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:32 pm to Brosef Stalin
quote:I had this thought as well.
Is this movie basically the first part of Full Metal Jacket with JK Simmons as Sgt Hartman and Miles Teller as Pvt Pyle?
The difference is that Miles was a prodigy and Pyle was a numbnut that should have been sectioned 8.
I said it before and will say it again, JK's character was NOT a mentor, he was a psychopath. How many students need to go off the deep end? Why when you were fired do you intentionally rope in your former protege with intent to destroy him?
As for the OP. Hollywood is a fickle bunch, they have no idea what they're doing year to year. Because it was "artsy" they overlook everything the normally despise content-wise.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 12:43 am to drizztiger
JK Simmons won his award because he made that psychopath into a somewhat likeable character
Posted on 3/1/15 at 12:49 am to Cosmo
I wouldn't say that verbal and physical abuse is "promoted." Can there be some benefit? Perhaps, as in Miles's case. He clearly had the kind of personality and drive that fed off that teaching style. But look at what cost to his quality of life. In the end, it seemed more of a cautionary tale.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:07 am to Upperdecker
quote:Not for me. JK's character should be in prison.
JK Simmons won his award because he made that psychopath into a somewhat likeable character
Posted on 3/1/15 at 5:48 am to Cosmo
I think what made this a good movie was its ambivalence. On one hand, Simmons' character is portrayed as a monster, and the point is driven home by the news of the suicide. Then he managed to evoke some sympathy near the end when he explained was he was trying to do. Then he's a monster again when his real motivation for recruiting Teller is revealed. And then in the end, he changes his attitude when he realizes that Teller may be The One. So yeah, to the OP's point, it does ultimately appear to condone Simmons' abusive ways.
This story actually just reminded me of the M Night Shamalamalamalan movie Unbreakable. By some convoluted logic, Sam Jackson's character figured that because he was extra fragile, there must be someone unbreakable, and he did monstrous things to find that person. Likewise, Simmons was willing to destroy everyone else in his quest to find the one young musician who could achieve greatness.
This story actually just reminded me of the M Night Shamalamalamalan movie Unbreakable. By some convoluted logic, Sam Jackson's character figured that because he was extra fragile, there must be someone unbreakable, and he did monstrous things to find that person. Likewise, Simmons was willing to destroy everyone else in his quest to find the one young musician who could achieve greatness.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 2:16 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Daniel Tosh said it best.
You want to beat your kid juuuuuust enough that he has the creative angst to one day give you the Thriller album, but not so much that he fricks kids.
You want to beat your kid juuuuuust enough that he has the creative angst to one day give you the Thriller album, but not so much that he fricks kids.
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