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Silk Road founder guilty on all counts

Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:16 pm
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Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:17 pm to
Just goes to show that most criminals are stupid.

Some are stupid but know how to code.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:19 pm to
How is he stupid?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:21 pm to
That interview was basically "He a gud boi" in a WASP dialect.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:21 pm to
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How is he stupid?


1) He got caught.

2) He got caught by making himself completely and easily traceable.

3) He got ripped off by his own hitmen.

I mean, this is the Internet and all but we're not going to argue that he was some criminal mastermind here, are we?
Posted by Geaux8686
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

ust goes to show that most criminals are stupid.

Some are stupid but know how to code.



+1
Posted by Geaux8686
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

Just goes to show that most criminals are stupid.

Some are stupid but know how to code.


+2
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:23 pm to
He had his laptop stolen from him by the fbi. They wouldn't have had shite without it
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:25 pm to
Were they just walking up to random people and jacking their laptops?

Even accepting your version of the events, they still traced him and knew he was their guy.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:25 pm to
So what's the sentence? Article doesn't say
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Even accepting your version of the events, they still traced him and knew he was their guy.

and had to commit a bunch of crimes and violate his rights to get the real information they needed

this case is fricked up and is a sign of the police state that is fueled by the war on drugs

this is a scary case with a scary result
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475805 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

So what's the sentence? Article doesn't say

feds will have a sentencing hearing. he's fricked
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

and had to commit a bunch of crimes and violate his rights to get the real information they needed


I'll play along. What rights were violated? Did his defense bring that up?

Just reading the article in the OP, the parents' defense seems to be that he was taking the fall for somebody else, not that he got railroaded by Uncle Sam.

Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:31 pm to
What crimes did they commit and why wasn't the defense all over that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475805 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

What rights were violated?

4th amendment, privacy, etc

quote:

Did his defense bring that up?

several. all shot down in the name of the War on Drugs. if you look at our 4th amendment rights in 1950 and compare them today, you'd be blown away. there has been a complete erosion

quote:

Just reading the article in the OP, the parents' defense seems to be that he was taking the fall for somebody else, not that he got railroaded by Uncle Sam.

well i don't think his participation was really direct. people dealt drugs via silk road more than he dealt drugs

that's the overarching defense (which isn't the best. the scary shite is how the FBI got there)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

What crimes did they commit and why wasn't the defense all over that?

they created a ruse in a library so that he looked away from his laptop

then an agent stole the laptop and another entered it illegally and ghosted his hard drive

if you did that, you'd be guilty of a slew of crimes. since it was teh police, and since drugs were involved, the law is irrelevant
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:38 pm to
We are living in scary times. A true police state isn't inconceivable.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
23941 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:41 pm to
Didn't he do something stupid like use an old gmail address from his political rants on the admin part of the server?

They seized a copy of the website when a server was accidentally found somewhere on the other side of the world.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475805 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:44 pm to
i don't know THAT much detail about the investigation. just the snippets about the stolen laptop and catch-22 about the servers
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35851 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:48 pm to
The extent to which our government will go to limit personal freedoms is staggering. Think of all the millions of soldiers who have died to protect the the governments right to throw your arse in jail so that they can protect you from harming yourself.
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