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re: OT Workout crew, lets talk diet and goals

Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3550 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:42 pm to
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I'd be interested in reading it if you wouldn't mind


I need to remember to bring my hard drive to work. then I'll send you a copy
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103299 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:43 pm to
don't do it Carson. honestly. not worth it.Girls don't care.
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3550 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:48 pm to
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My friends dad is a pharmacist. I would advise against them based on his stories



This....
Posted by Austin Cajun
Austin, Tejas
Member since Aug 2013
1884 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:51 pm to
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ANY ADVICE FROM THE WEIGHT CROWD WOULD BE APPRECIATED

I've always been a runner but I'm making some drastic changes

Since the new year, I've lifted weights 4 times a week, followed by a 4 mile run.

Yes I know about not running after lifting, I've had some decent gains, but I'm ditching cardio. I'm starting with 3 meals a day

protein shake and breakfast bar for breakfast

something decent (maybe even a burger, but mostly chicken or turkey) for lunch

and a good dinner after I work out.

I typically eat twice a day.

new schedule:
Monday: lift
Tuesday: lift
Wednesday: 4 mile run
Thursday: lift
Friday: lift
Saturday: 4 mile run

new habits: protein shake, and 3 meals a day

goals: gain muscle and burn the small amount of fat I'm carrying in my belly (small) I want to burn 700-1000 calories when I lift.

my legs are already carrying muscle and definition as I've been running (mixed with excruciating stints on the elliptical and bike) so I'm focused on my upper body.




My first suggestion is obviously going to be to cut the cardio if you're trying to put on mass.

Next, kill the protein shake for breakfast. It's a waste at that time. Being that it's protein in a liquid form, your body is going to process it and dispose of it at a rate faster than it can absorb the protein. You'll literally piss it out. Save the shake for the 30 minute anabolic window that follows a workout.
At that time, your muscles are broken down and protein synthesis is just beginning to repair them. Your muscles basically become a sponge and soak up that protein shake, save the shake for post workout.

As for breakfast, I personally carb load in the morning. Do what you feel works best for you. Some people prefer protein in the morning and that's fine. Just make sure you're getting your carbs in too.

Rest time is just as important as gym time. Your body has to recover from the stress and damage you are doing to it in the gym. Without sufficient rest, your muscles aren't going to grow. Workout 4 days and rest 3, let your body heal.

It's difficult to gain muscle and burn fat at the same time. They each have opposite requirements. However, muscle also burns fat. Muscle increases body temps and metabolism. I will literally break out into a sweat after a meal sometimes as my body starts to break things down. Put on the muscle first, and the fat will be easier to get rid of.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42645 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:52 pm to
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OT Workout crew, lets talk diet and goals



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I'm also not one to count calories or macros. I hate that. I'm at the point where I'm ready to find a nutritionist who will tailor a diet plan to me with foods I will eat.


Haha. Forever fat.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32035 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:56 pm to
im 5'6" "short mfr
32 yrs old
weigh 159lbs right now. Gained some during holidays. I was 148-150 last summer.
im not a workout guy but started gym 3 weeks ago and been going 5 days a week. just 40mins a day though. rotating legs, back, shoulders, biceps, chest each day.
Main thing is my diet. Right now here is my daily
9am one pack of grits
10:30 quest bar
1:30 4-6oz baked turkey breast and 2 boiled egg whites
3pm protein shake
6:30 one whole baked chicken breast covered in all color bell peppers and taco sauce, frozen snap beans
8pm quest bar
drink around 6 20oz bottles water daily

hope to lean up, would like to be 150 but lean. im not sure if ill get 150 or not lifting. I have never lifted much before. my only fat lies in my belly. any suggestions helpful. i only have time to hit the gym monday-fri for 40-45 mins. I hadnt did any cardio yet. any suggestions?
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19064 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:57 pm to
Diet:

Early afternoon
10oz Protein with a veggie and piece of fruit

Post workout/ early evening
10oz Protein with a starchy carb and veggie

Before bed
Usually a fat source like eggs and toast with a shake or something simple.

Do IF feed from roughly 2-10 pm.

Goal:

Currently cutting since November. Calories usually come to about 2000 right now
Posted by BayouBengal0505
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
2686 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:00 pm to
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My friends dad is a pharmacist. I would advise against them based on his stories


This! I am no meat head but i train 4-5 times a week and cycle 3-4 times a week cycling around 20 miles each run(new orleans to kenner and back on the levee). Steroid is the absolute worst thing you can do to your body. My good friend told me HGH used in well manner is good for the body but I do not have 2 or 3 k to spend on it.
Posted by Austin Cajun
Austin, Tejas
Member since Aug 2013
1884 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:02 pm to
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Haha. Forever fat.


Not fat at all, I'd lay down a ban bet that I'm in better shape than you.
Just can't get over that hump to reach my goal, but at least I know why.
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3550 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:09 pm to
Haha.. I'm 5'6" too, 31 years old

Maybe less carbs, more cardio
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32035 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:12 pm to
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OT Workout crew, lets talk diet and goals
Haha.. I'm 5'6" too, 31 years old

Maybe less carbs, more cardio



what carbs are you saying less of from my daily meals i mentioned?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103299 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:12 pm to
please post pics of each other and we'll be the judge
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3550 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:17 pm to
Grits alone as breakfast is too many carbs with not enough protein
Posted by Future_FlexZone
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
284 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:17 pm to
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Squatty body doucher in dress clothes


thank you for telling it like it is

quote:

30s trying to be lean and mean. Now I'm prob 180. Would liked to be a leaner 165-170 by April.


Rip it! Just wondering, how much meat/eggs/cheese are you eating to drop weight; I've lost alot more when I go vegan than paleo/high protien

quote:

Do more cardio than lifting now although still lifting occasionally. Just signed up to train and run my second marathon.


Awesome! Which one?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84030 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:22 pm to
I'll have 3 eggs in the morning with turkey bacon and either steel cut oats or a piece of sprouted bread.

And, of course, coffee, black.

Lunch is usually brown rice, veggies, and chicken or fish.

Snack is usually a quest protein bar or something like a pbnj.

Dinner is usually quinoa, beans, and a meat.

Of course, I workout and take stuff afterwards. Usually protein shake and stuff.
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3550 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:24 pm to
Nice

Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:24 pm to
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kill the protein shake for breakfast. It's a waste at that time. Being that it's protein in a liquid form, your body is going to process it and dispose of it at a rate faster than it can absorb the protein. You'll literally piss it out. Save the shake for the 30 minute anabolic window that follows a workout.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32035 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:30 pm to
dam i was told to eat a starchy carb at breakfast fml
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84030 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:31 pm to
It might be a little hard on the carb side, and I do admit I've lost the 6-pack just a tad, so I may cut back a little bit. I just get so exhausted during the day and I do want to get bigger.

I'm still trying to figure it out.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12425 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:31 pm to
Did the Austin one before. Promised myself I'd never do another one. Got caught up in the pageantry this past Sunday watching runners finishing at the big Houston marathon, went home, and early registered for the one next year.
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