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Europe QE to start off at 50 Billion / Month?

Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:31 am
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8129 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:31 am
LINK

If this is correct tomorrow (Draghi is final word and he talks tomorrow) its going to be a good start to the year for Europe and US markets IMO.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:47 am to
Please correct me if I am wrong, but the ECB balance sheet has been shrinking. So how much a month?

IIRC, this 50 bil euros will be little more than maintaining the status quo. Better than nothing, but we'll see what happens tomorrow.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8129 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:56 am to
January 2014 shows 30,885 on balance sheet and Nov 2014 shows 31,439.

LINK

It's stayed roughly the same through most of 2014.

This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 9:59 am
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:25 pm to
I guess I was thinking about seeing this...

Page 8 Figure 7.

Yardeni Central Banks
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8129 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:01 am to
Draghi came out with 60 Billion Euros (70 billion USD) / month. Purchases to start in March and go through end of 2016. This gives a total of 1.3 trillion Euros so far.

LINK
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:05 am to
Breaking...Danish Central Bank just cut rates again.

Currency wars do not end well.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8129 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:06 pm to
Nope not at all...Im thinking a USD pullback soon. It will be a buy the dip type correction IMO. USD to 160 plus in next 2 to 4 years wouldnt surprise me.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:00 pm to
So how does this work with ECB? Do they just spread the govt debt purchases across the member countries? (Will they skip Greece?)
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134091 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:17 pm to
Euro down to $1.13. Parity here it comes.....
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

So how does this work with ECB? Do they just spread the govt debt purchases across the member countries? (Will they skip Greece?)


Well, see that is all about the fine print. According to the release, not until the summer can Greece be included. They have bonds coming due at that time.There are caveats also.

The duration for purchases announced does not fall in line with Greek Debt.

The deal announced for bond buying: 80% risk to member banks. Will be interesting to see how that plays out, non?

In the near term, I am looking at this move by the ECB at too sketchy. The ECB is not the Federal Reserve, so any results from this announcement just don't compute for me yet. IF Syriza is elected and IF Greece defaults on that 240+ billion Euros they owe the ECB, then at 60 billion Euros a month (for the near term) is going to be plugging holes.

Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8129 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

So how does this work with ECB?


LINK

Bloomberg gives some good basics here.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
3586 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:55 am to
Additional background information on the basics of central bank accounting here. I'm still confused, but flashes of recognition are starting to appear.

Also this explains the fiscal implications and why Germans don't have to worry about Greek debt. But that's why Germans are Germans - they worry about stuff. All the time.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 7:04 am to
I guess that if one believes that this ECB QE follows the road map of the US QE, then one would buy European stocks and high yield.

How about Euro funding of Emerging markets?
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8129 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:43 am to
quote:

European stocks


I really like Italian MIB here. I might buy some MIB futures and hedge out currency risks of the trade.

ETA: I haven't bought anything here yet...will wait until new highs above the summer 2014 levels.
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 8:50 am
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8129 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:12 pm to
I haven't seen the move to the upside I expected to after the ECB QE announcement. Could head down until March when the QE actually starts.
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