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A little Synopsis of how fan bases react to the possibility of a downturn
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:22 pm
Declines in football are a lot like economic declines. By the time everyone recognizes it, it's too late.
Step 1) Seeds of decline are sown. Very few obvious outward signs, but some errors or simply negative factor have occurred that will eventually show symptoms. A few people may see them, but very few. And, for the most part, they are made fun of by those who think they're crazy.(at this point, they might be crazy)
Step 2) First real signs that the seeds have taken root. Still, most people perceive the slight decline as a mere blip. They expect full recovery and relatively quick.(recovery isn't out of the question)
Step 3) Signs are no longer really deniable but there will be a few hold outs who swear that things are going to turn around and demand that no policies be significantly changed. "It's just a cycle and no individuals or policies are to blame".(only fools still deny the problem)
Step 4) Any moron knows the bottom has fallen out. Everyone in step three disappears. Pretty soon, everyone you meet claims to have fallen into Step 1.(not even possible to deny the problem)
Now that I think of it, this is sort of common in all things. IE, try to find someone now who admits to having liked Vanilla Ice. Dude sold millions of albums to apparently, no one.
Step 1) Seeds of decline are sown. Very few obvious outward signs, but some errors or simply negative factor have occurred that will eventually show symptoms. A few people may see them, but very few. And, for the most part, they are made fun of by those who think they're crazy.(at this point, they might be crazy)
Step 2) First real signs that the seeds have taken root. Still, most people perceive the slight decline as a mere blip. They expect full recovery and relatively quick.(recovery isn't out of the question)
Step 3) Signs are no longer really deniable but there will be a few hold outs who swear that things are going to turn around and demand that no policies be significantly changed. "It's just a cycle and no individuals or policies are to blame".(only fools still deny the problem)
Step 4) Any moron knows the bottom has fallen out. Everyone in step three disappears. Pretty soon, everyone you meet claims to have fallen into Step 1.(not even possible to deny the problem)
Now that I think of it, this is sort of common in all things. IE, try to find someone now who admits to having liked Vanilla Ice. Dude sold millions of albums to apparently, no one.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 3:51 pm
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:26 pm to ShortyRob
OTOH, just like in the economy, there are always doomsayers predicting calamity. Eventually something bad does happen, and they say "see, I was right all along!"
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:29 pm to ShortyRob
#threadsfrom2009
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:34 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
who admits to having liked Vanilla Ice
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:43 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I liked Vanilla Ice.
try to find someone now who admits to having liked Vanilla Ice. Dude sold millions of albums to apparently, no one.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:20 pm to ShortyRob
i loved me some Vanilla Ice
Posted on 1/8/15 at 6:41 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
try to find someone now who admits to having liked Vanilla Ice. Dude sold millions of albums to apparently, no one.
"Hooked" was and still is my jam.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:36 pm to ShortyRob
in a discussion of his theory of relativity, a student asked professor einstein about E=mc squared:
Professor, what is Energy?
Einstein answered "Energy is Thought."
The amount of energy used on the rant could power the electrical needs of NYC!
think, think, think..........
either energy or bullshite!
Professor, what is Energy?
Einstein answered "Energy is Thought."
The amount of energy used on the rant could power the electrical needs of NYC!
think, think, think..........
either energy or bullshite!
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:14 am to ShortyRob
No
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:56 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Declines in football are a lot like economic declines. By the time everyone recognizes it, it's too late. Step 1) Seeds of decline are sown. Very few obvious outward signs, but some errors or simply negative factor have occurred that will eventually show symptoms. A few people may see them, but very few. And, for the most part, they are made fun of by those who think they're crazy.(at this point, they might be crazy) Step 2) First real signs that the seeds have taken root. Still, most people perceive the slight decline as a mere blip. They expect full recovery and relatively quick.(recovery isn't out of the question) Step 3) Signs are no longer really deniable but there will be a few hold outs who swear that things are going to turn around and demand that no policies be significantly changed. "It's just a cycle and no individuals or policies are to blame".(only fools still deny the problem) Step 4) Any moron knows the bottom has fallen out. Everyone in step three disappears. Pretty soon, everyone you meet claims to have fallen into Step 1.(not even possible to deny the problem) Now that I think of it, this is sort of common in all things. IE, try to find someone now who admits to having liked Vanilla Ice. Dude sold millions of albums to apparently, no one.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:59 am to ShortyRob
The short version is Miles is not a horrible coach. He has simply lost his edge and the program has become such too large in stature for him to handle.
It is similar to giving a Ferrari to a sixteen year old. It's fun for awhile but eventually he wrecks it.
It is similar to giving a Ferrari to a sixteen year old. It's fun for awhile but eventually he wrecks it.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 2:13 pm to ShortyRob
Questions. How do you define a "downturn"? How do you know when you are in step 1 or 2 of a "downturn" instead of a temporary downturn?
Posted on 1/9/15 at 2:47 pm to ShortyRob
Since you chose to use the economy in your analogy (which in some ways, is appropriate), you can also go further and say:
Economies go up and down (and the same thing can be said about college football programs).
In a more micro-scale, companies (like football teams) have good years and bad years.
Some companies that were once great go out of business for several reasons (fail to adapt to changes in technology or changes in tastes, or changes in _______).
Some companies that were once great survive but only as a shell of their once great self.
Some companies can be resurrected (think Apple).
The long standing and successful companies (understanding they will have good years and bad years) adapt to changes in personnel and/or market conditions, etc. and have the culture and attitude to “get up off the mat” when times get tough and have the desire to fight for another day.
And along the lines of your “Les Miles finding another job as an OC” comment…. many CEO’s are successful at managing (coaching) an entire organization but they may not have the skill set to be the VP in charge of Product Engineering, or the CFO, or the _______ - this is very common.
Personally, I am not sure where the program stands based upon the above list because I don't play there, I don't coach there, and thus I have not been involved in any of their meetings or planning/strategy sessions.
Economies go up and down (and the same thing can be said about college football programs).
In a more micro-scale, companies (like football teams) have good years and bad years.
Some companies that were once great go out of business for several reasons (fail to adapt to changes in technology or changes in tastes, or changes in _______).
Some companies that were once great survive but only as a shell of their once great self.
Some companies can be resurrected (think Apple).
The long standing and successful companies (understanding they will have good years and bad years) adapt to changes in personnel and/or market conditions, etc. and have the culture and attitude to “get up off the mat” when times get tough and have the desire to fight for another day.
And along the lines of your “Les Miles finding another job as an OC” comment…. many CEO’s are successful at managing (coaching) an entire organization but they may not have the skill set to be the VP in charge of Product Engineering, or the CFO, or the _______ - this is very common.
Personally, I am not sure where the program stands based upon the above list because I don't play there, I don't coach there, and thus I have not been involved in any of their meetings or planning/strategy sessions.
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 2:49 pm
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