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re: NYPD cops refuse to turn and face mayor as he walks into hospital
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:39 am to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:39 am to ChineseBandit58
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How is you hypothetical "young black man" dressed? Is he wearing a hoodie, holding up his pants with his belt at his crotch? If that is the case, I would be suspicious of him myself - just as I would be suspicious of a young white man, a young hispanic, a young asian, a young indian . . . If your hypothetical "young black man" is wearing a suit and tie, or even is wearing decent casual dress, he will not be treated any differently than a white, hispanic, asian, or indian similarly attired. If you want to dress like a thug expect to be treated as a thug by those who don't personally know you. You have no 'right' to expect absolute acceptance other than by how you present yourself.
I have been dressed in slacks and a polo and boat shoes and messenger bag and had the police called on me in a similar situation. The officer actually pulled his gun on me. Scariest moment of my life.
Before you try to stereotype me. Both my parents were cops. My father retired from law enforcement. I grew up with cops of all colors as my parents friends. I am not anti law enforcement.
I am speaking from life experiences. The mayor was 100% right for what he told his son.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:06 am to mikelowery1911
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I have been dressed in slacks and a polo and boat shoes and messenger bag and had the police called on me in a similar situation. The officer actually pulled his gun on me. Scariest moment of my life.
Before you try to stereotype me. Both my parents were cops. My father retired from law enforcement. I grew up with cops of all colors as my parents friends. I am not anti law enforcement.
I am speaking from life experiences. The mayor was 100% right for what he told his son.
I'd like to know the backstory on why a well dressed respectful young man would be accosted by a policeman with guns drawn. Not that I don't believe you but that is pretty far out. I am sure you filed a complaint. I certainly would have.
I don't stereotype except for behavior. If you are acting like a thug, I will expect you to be a thug until you prove differently by your actions.
I was not 'taught' respect - it was the culture I grew up in. It didn't have to be a 'lesson; for me or most of my generation - we observed how the world worked and it never occurred to us to act like spoiled two-year old brats. Respect came easily and naturally to me. With apologies to FDR = The only thing I disrespect is disrespect itself.
And I highly hate disrespect. It seems to me thee is a whole generation of young people today who are proud of their "right" to be disrespectful. To them I say 'frick you' - and the horse you rode in on.
What the mayor told his son is no different that what any father demonstrates to his children on a daily basis. The fact that he felt he had to single out this instance as a precaution to his son, must mean that he didn't trust his son to act responsibly.
The fact that the mayor would publicly highlight this 'discussion' with his son in the midst of violent riots about fictitious narratives ginned up by the race-industry is what is outrageous about his actions.
Of course nobody can argue with the inherent wisdom of his words - it is the timing and emphasis that is important.
The mayor is the titular head of the police dept. It is his duty to support his troops until there are real and factual abuses = and then he should handle the situation within the department and maybe make announcements when the problems have been solved. He certainly should not immediately side with the erroneous narrative and rumors which fuel violent riots.
I really would like to know the backstory of why policeman came after you with guns drawn when you were doing nothing suspicious.
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