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re: Give me one good reason why marijuana should be illegal while alcohol shouldn't

Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:52 pm to
OP asked for a good reason. I think I gave him one. I realize it may not be THE reason but it is a legitimate point to consider.

I understand there are devices currently being developed to do just this. Once they are proven to work and available for sale, I will drop my opposition.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

If marijuana became legal, give me one good reason why cocaine and heroin should remain illegal




I can't. But, alcohol would be a better comparison.


Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:57 pm to
Because Jesus drank but only heathens toke.

Or something like that.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

If marijuana became legal, give me one good reason why cocaine and heroin should remain illegal


There isnt one, all should be legal.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:00 pm to
There's not a reliable and inexpensive way to test for level of marijuana intoxication for driving purposes. I understand that they are working on this problem now.


Intoxication effects of a small amount of alcohol is lower than for marijuana. Meaning that someone can have a beer or glass or wine and not be significantly intoxicated enough to be impaired. The effect of marijuana is generally and relatively more immediate.


Steady use of marijuana, even in small doses, has more of a deleterious health effect than that of steady use of small doses of alcohol.
Meaning that a person who smokes a joint per day will have more negative health effects than a person who consumes one beer or glass of wine per day.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:04 pm to
Sorry, I can't
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

There isnt one, all should be legal.


For the reasons I stated earlier, I have to respectfully disagree.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:09 pm to
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For the reasons I stated earlier, I have to respectfully disagree.


You are correct, of course.

Marijuana enthusiasts have gone overboard in vilifying alcohol as a way to get pot legalized. The arguments have some merit, and I think legalization should happen, but this notion that marijuana is some miracle herb with no ill effects is absurd.

Find a cost effective and reliable way to determine if someone is intoxicated on marijuana, and the resistence to legalization will melt away.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:10 pm to


The idea that methamphetamine has an incredibly low rate of harmful effect on others is laughable. I see tremendous amounts of harm caused to others by users of it almost daily.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20359 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:13 pm to
That chart is laughable.

"Overall harm score"!

Tres scientific!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:17 pm to
Units of overall harm?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46651 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:17 pm to
Resistance will melt away when the baby boomers start dying off. The lack of testing measures isnt a significant reason why most oppose it, hell most people couldnt even tell you if there was a field test for it or not.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:19 pm to
Its easier to hide in your pants than alcohol.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Ethanol and nicotine are more addictive that's why they are legal.

Who told you EtOH is more addictive than heroin? Bc they lied
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Intoxication effects of a small amount of alcohol is lower than for marijuana. Meaning that someone can have a beer or glass or wine and not be significantly intoxicated enough to be impaired. The effect of marijuana is generally and relatively more immediate.

Wrong. Impossible to make these type of generalizations. Definitely varies case by case.
quote:

Steady use of marijuana, even in small doses, has more of a deleterious health effect than that of steady use of small doses of alcohol. Meaning that a person who smokes a joint per day will have more negative health effects than a person who consumes one beer or glass of wine per day.

Link to this study? Would love to take a look at it.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:24 pm to
Alcohol probably kills more people in a year than weed does in a decade or two, if any.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46651 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:25 pm to
Alcohol kills more people in a year than weed EVER has.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:29 pm to
Anybody want to guess how many people have died from EtOH since this thread started??
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:29 pm to
I just chuckle at the hypocrisy of some people who are the biggest alcoholics that I know is full blown holy roller on keeping weed illegal.
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