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re: Who has the leverage?

Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:25 am to
Posted by SL Tiger
Houston
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:25 am to
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I have no idea, and neither do you


I honestly don't think that Miles could have done what Saban did. Saban came in with credentials and a reputation as a defensive schemer. He designed defenses and schemes. Kids knew that and wanted to learn from him. He's also on a different level than Miles as a recruiter.

Miles is the guy that parents want to send their kids to...Saban is the coach that parents want to send their players to. Saban brought an air of dominating defense to LSU.

I think that most football people would agree with me. Miles isn't a program builder. He isn't an great X/O coach. What is he great at?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31059 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:30 am to
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I think that most football people would agree with me.


You'd be wrong.



I guess you've missed all the recruiting classes Miles has gotten. Who do you think got Eric Reid to come here? Mathieu, Ridley, Dupre, Quinn, Patrick Peterson, Mett, Fournette, Williams, Travis Dickson, DeSean Smith, Kendall Beckwith, shall I go on?


Before you say Miles didn't recruit all of those guys, I will grant you that, however members of his staff, men he hired did.


It blows my mind how some of you can't just give him credit.


You're trolling at this point. I'm done with this thread.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 12:32 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:54 am to
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I honestly don't think that Miles could have done what Saban did.


That's the difference between you and I then. when I don't know a thing, I'll gladly say I don't know. Miles is clearly good enough to have done that, but there is no way to know if he would have had he had the chance.

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Saban came in with credentials and a reputation as a defensive schemer. He designed defenses and schemes. Kids knew that and wanted to learn from him. He's also on a different level than Miles as a recruiter.

Miles is the guy that parents want to send their kids to...Saban is the coach that parents want to send their players to. Saban brought an air of dominating defense to LSU.



Honestly...none of that really means anything and most of it is either speculation or opinion.

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I think that most football people would agree with me


I don't...unless you consider "football people" to be random LSU fans still frothing at the mouth about 1-9-12. Most everyone else in the country is able to see Miles' success st LSU without the emotional connection to the guy over is Tuscaloosa tainting it for them.

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Miles isn't a program builder.


Ok St. was exponentially better while he was there and afterwards than before him.

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He isn't an great X/O coach.


Again...I don't know that for a fact. It's an assumption based on what you think you know by watching TV. You may be correct, but if you were it would be purely accidental.

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What is he great at?


Given his record over the past decade, I'd say he's great at running the LSU Football program. Despite the fact that like most fans I'd like our success to be even better, I'm thrilled at just how fantastic the program has been this past 15 seasons. Miles has been an enormous part of that.
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