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re: What would you say to a Yazidi woman raped by ISIS who wanted an abortion?

Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:38 pm to
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I fundamentally disagree with your position and think it is cold and callous, and I'm sure you feel the same way about mine.

This is why I hesitate to engage in the abortion debate. There is no middle ground.
I know it sounds cold and callous. I could say the same thing about those who invest their emotions 100% in the mother while supporting the killing of the unborn child.

The problem is that if you don't agree with abortion, you somehow want the mother to feel bad or you relish the idea of her being emotionally or psychologically damaged from it. Usually the opposite is true.

It's a terrible situation, but evil exists in our world and we have to deal with it as best as possible. I think rape is evil, but I also think abortion is also evil in most cases, including rape.

It isn't callous to think that the child should have a chance at life, just because it was the result of a traumatic event. I can feel empathy towards the mother while desiring that she keep the child.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109905 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:55 pm to
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I know it sounds cold and callous.


Well, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

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I could say the same thing about those who invest their emotions 100% in the mother while supporting the killing of the unborn child.


No you can't, since that child was conceived under an act of pure evil. That child by no sane person's mind should have ever been conceived. It does not deserve to see the light of day. I can see the argument when two idiots are fricking around and don't use protection and this happens, but no matter how you dice it with a rape, it's evil to let that child see the light of day. In its most basic form, what you're proposing is that God wanted that girl to get raped in order to conceive this child, to do who knows what holy plan for him. Basically for me, that proposes that God is evil and will let monstrous things happen just for the sake of procreation. I think God is a bit more humane than that and is understanding that this woman is in a traumatic and horrible situation, and she made due with the best option available to her, which is most certainly an abortion.

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The problem is that if you don't agree with abortion, you somehow want the mother to feel bad or you relish the idea of her being emotionally or psychologically damaged from it. Usually the opposite is true.


frick you

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It isn't callous to think that the child should have a chance at life, just because it was the result of a traumatic event. I can feel empathy towards the mother while desiring that she keep the child.


You are so delusional it makes me sick.
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