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re: Is the lack of new, catchy guitar riffs to blame for the gradual death of rock?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:54 am to saint amant steve
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:54 am to saint amant steve
Rock is dead for two reasons:
1. because it doesn't "rock" hard enough for the meatheads to listen to it. Most of it now is indi pop that sounds like 80s underground techno or 70s singer/songwriter folk rock. The meatheads are now listening to older metal, nickelback, or bro country. Most rock these days feels very subdued, rather than raucus and out of control. A great example of what I mean would be comparing a good live Soul Rebels brass band show to a recording of the Preservation Hall Jazz band performing "Dinah". Both are great, but each have different appeals. Rock these days is either recycled garbage, or beautiful, but unexciting Dinah. It rarely makes you feel like a bullet proof badass anymore (Think rolling down the street in a 69 Camero blaring "Hair of the Dog"). Gangsta rap and hip/hop now is the primary musical manufacturer of that feeling for most teens and young adults.
2. because hot white girls can't/won't dance to it. In the bar and entertainment industry, the number one demographic is attractive white women between 18-35. Get them to come and the others will follow. That demographic loves music they can dance to. Rock in the 21st century rarely provides that, red dirt country, pop, and hip/hop does. Bars book bands based on who they can draw. Men go where the women are. Women go where they can dance. Bring in the women and the rest will follow. Rock doesn't bring in the women, country and pop does. Original music is thus stifled and stymied at the local level because it has trouble drawing patrons for bars. Knowing this, major record labels and radio stations play it safe with tried and true, unoffensive music, which isn't original, isn't cool, and surely doesn't "rock".
1. because it doesn't "rock" hard enough for the meatheads to listen to it. Most of it now is indi pop that sounds like 80s underground techno or 70s singer/songwriter folk rock. The meatheads are now listening to older metal, nickelback, or bro country. Most rock these days feels very subdued, rather than raucus and out of control. A great example of what I mean would be comparing a good live Soul Rebels brass band show to a recording of the Preservation Hall Jazz band performing "Dinah". Both are great, but each have different appeals. Rock these days is either recycled garbage, or beautiful, but unexciting Dinah. It rarely makes you feel like a bullet proof badass anymore (Think rolling down the street in a 69 Camero blaring "Hair of the Dog"). Gangsta rap and hip/hop now is the primary musical manufacturer of that feeling for most teens and young adults.
2. because hot white girls can't/won't dance to it. In the bar and entertainment industry, the number one demographic is attractive white women between 18-35. Get them to come and the others will follow. That demographic loves music they can dance to. Rock in the 21st century rarely provides that, red dirt country, pop, and hip/hop does. Bars book bands based on who they can draw. Men go where the women are. Women go where they can dance. Bring in the women and the rest will follow. Rock doesn't bring in the women, country and pop does. Original music is thus stifled and stymied at the local level because it has trouble drawing patrons for bars. Knowing this, major record labels and radio stations play it safe with tried and true, unoffensive music, which isn't original, isn't cool, and surely doesn't "rock".
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:15 am to kingbob
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Rock is dead for two reasons
complete bullshite
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:19 am to kingbob
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Rock is dead for two reasons:
1. because it doesn't "rock" hard enough for the meatheads to listen to it. Most of it now is indi pop that sounds like 80s underground techno or 70s singer/songwriter folk rock. The meatheads are now listening to older metal, nickelback, or bro country. Most rock these days feels very subdued, rather than raucus and out of control. A great example of what I mean would be comparing a good live Soul Rebels brass band show to a recording of the Preservation Hall Jazz band performing "Dinah". Both are great, but each have different appeals. Rock these days is either recycled garbage, or beautiful, but unexciting Dinah. It rarely makes you feel like a bullet proof badass anymore (Think rolling down the street in a 69 Camero blaring "Hair of the Dog"). Gangsta rap and hip/hop now is the primary musical manufacturer of that feeling for most teens and young adults.
2. because hot white girls can't/won't dance to it. In the bar and entertainment industry, the number one demographic is attractive white women between 18-35. Get them to come and the others will follow. That demographic loves music they can dance to. Rock in the 21st century rarely provides that, red dirt country, pop, and hip/hop does. Bars book bands based on who they can draw. Men go where the women are. Women go where they can dance. Bring in the women and the rest will follow. Rock doesn't bring in the women, country and pop does. Original music is thus stifled and stymied at the local level because it has trouble drawing patrons for bars. Knowing this, major record labels and radio stations play it safe with tried and true, unoffensive music, which isn't original, isn't cool, and surely doesn't "rock
Holy fck, I can't believe you just wrote all that bullshite. So much fail I don't even know where to begin.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:59 am to kingbob
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kingbob
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Rock is dead for two reasons:
1. because it doesn't "rock" hard enough for the meatheads to listen to it. Most of it now is indi pop that sounds like 80s underground techno or 70s singer/songwriter folk rock. The meatheads are now listening to older metal, nickelback, or bro country. Most rock these days feels very subdued, rather than raucus and out of control. A great example of what I mean would be comparing a good live Soul Rebels brass band show to a recording of the Preservation Hall Jazz band performing "Dinah". Both are great, but each have different appeals. Rock these days is either recycled garbage, or beautiful, but unexciting Dinah. It rarely makes you feel like a bullet proof badass anymore (Think rolling down the street in a 69 Camero blaring "Hair of the Dog"). Gangsta rap and hip/hop now is the primary musical manufacturer of that feeling for most teens and young adults.
2. because hot white girls can't/won't dance to it. In the bar and entertainment industry, the number one demographic is attractive white women between 18-35. Get them to come and the others will follow. That demographic loves music they can dance to. Rock in the 21st century rarely provides that, red dirt country, pop, and hip/hop does. Bars book bands based on who they can draw. Men go where the women are. Women go where they can dance. Bring in the women and the rest will follow. Rock doesn't bring in the women, country and pop does. Original music is thus stifled and stymied at the local level because it has trouble drawing patrons for bars. Knowing this, major record labels and radio stations play it safe with tried and true, unoffensive music, which isn't original, isn't cool, and surely doesn't "rock".
Normally, you and I seem to have conflicting opinions. However, in this case it's hard not to argue with these two points.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:01 pm to kingbob
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2. because hot white girls can't/won't dance to it. In the bar and entertainment industry, the number one demographic is attractive white women between 18-35. Get them to come and the others will follow. That demographic loves music they can dance to. Rock in the 21st century rarely provides that, red dirt country, pop, and hip/hop does. Bars book bands based on who they can draw. Men go where the women are. Women go where they can dance. Bring in the women and the rest will follow. Rock doesn't bring in the women, country and pop does.
If you only listen to music based on what the hot girls are into then you're not a real music fan.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:19 pm to kingbob
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Gangsta rap and hip/hop now is the primary musical manufacturer of that feeling for most teens and young adults.
I'm 20. Basically all of my friends listen to mainstream hip hop. Rap hasn't been very gangsta lately. Its all about bitchez in da club, and twerkn'.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:27 pm to kingbob
Rock and Roll is not dead.
morons.
morons.
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