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re: Do republicans on here want Jeb to run?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:53 am to The Egg
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:53 am to The Egg
Lots of "hell no"s but not a lot of alternatives offered.
Forget about who you guys want. Who do you think can beat Hillary?
Note: GOP has to win Florida or it's pretty much already over - FYI
Forget about who you guys want. Who do you think can beat Hillary?
Note: GOP has to win Florida or it's pretty much already over - FYI
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:58 am to BugAC
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I'd give it a 50% chance that Hillary actually runs.
She's running. She has waited too long NOT to run. Ds have no bullpen.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:11 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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It wouldn't matter who won
This can't be stressed enough.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:14 pm to The Egg
The board knows he will win the nomination
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:15 pm to TOKEN
Jeb has a better map than any other candidate.
His machine can match Hillarys.
His machine can match Hillarys.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:15 pm to a want
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Who do you think can beat Hillary?
my personal opinion is the only person that can beat hillary at this point is rand paul. Rand has a lot of issues in the primary and general though.
But he is one candidate that can beat hillary. But can the republicans stomach rand? I don't think they can.
Bush or christie will be the nominee. They lose by at least 2 pts to HRC (assuming she doesn't frick it up).
HRC's bigger problem is the dem nomination.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:17 pm to Hawkeye95
Rand won't get the money needed to win.
Issues? fricking $1.5 billion smear machine.
Issues? fricking $1.5 billion smear machine.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:18 pm to The Egg
Even if I agreed with him on every issue under the sun, NO. The name "Bush" will lose more than enough votes to make it even easier for the Democrats to win with a clown than it was in 2008.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:18 pm to The Egg
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Do republicans on here want Jeb to run?
Of course not.
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is this the GOP's best chance to beat hillary?
Of course not.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:19 pm to TOKEN
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Rand won't get the money needed to win.
Issues? fricking $1.5 billion smear machine.
rand will have plenty of money. The problem is woman. Rand will be more competitive with the young and POC but he will lose woman by 5-7%, and that will do him in.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:31 pm to moneyg
moar polls
CNN
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32. I'm going to read a list of people who may be running in the Republican primaries for president in
2016. After I read all the names, please tell me which of those candidates you would be most likely
to support for the Republican nomination for president in 2016, or if you would support someone
else. Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, John Kasich,
Rand Paul, Mike Pence, Rick Perry, Rob Portman, Mitt Romney, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Rick
Santorum, or Scott Walker. (RANDOM ORDER)
Nov. 21-23 2014
Romney 20%
Carson 10%
Bush 9%
Christie 8%
Huckabee 7%
Paul 6%
Ryan 6%
Cruz 5%
Walker 5%
Perry 4%
Rubio 3%
Kasich 2%
Santorum 2%
Jindal 1%
Pence 1%
Portman *
CNN
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:39 pm to Hawkeye95
Umm no Rand won't have the money
Hillary wins by 9 plus points with women. It won't even be close.
Still, Hillary ain't running yall
Hillary wins by 9 plus points with women. It won't even be close.
Still, Hillary ain't running yall
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:39 pm to The Egg
I'll be the first (and probably only) Republican to say I want him to run - but that's because I want everyone to run who is a viable candidate, from far right to most moderate, so that the voters in the primaries and the caucuses are the ones who make the selection. The indisputable fact is that there is no clear early leader for the GOP nomination., not even anyone even sniffing at such a status. The more announced candidates going into the Fall the better. In 2008, the last time there was no incumbent, no less than 22 individuals announced their candidacies (12 GOP, 10 Dems) by the end of summer, 2007. The money follows the leaders, not the other way around. As each candidate drops out along the way, his/her supporters and financial backers move on to the next closest candidate and make that selection based on one of three criteria - best chance to win the nomination, best chance to win the general election, and that person's individual political positions, in variable order.
No Republican would "easily" defeat Clinton if she runs, but she can be beaten, no matter how much she separates herself from Obama in the next two years. Her performance in her four years as SOS was generally regarded as sub-par at best, and a failure in the eyes of many Independents (you know the Independents, they're the ones who decide the elections). She has vulnerabilities aplenty, and the Clinton name is not what it used to be. Even Bill's star power is fading. I don't want to be reading about Hillary Clinton Executive Orders 3 or 4 years from now, so I encourage every Republican who is interested to throw his/her hat in the ring and let it play out the way it always has.
No Republican would "easily" defeat Clinton if she runs, but she can be beaten, no matter how much she separates herself from Obama in the next two years. Her performance in her four years as SOS was generally regarded as sub-par at best, and a failure in the eyes of many Independents (you know the Independents, they're the ones who decide the elections). She has vulnerabilities aplenty, and the Clinton name is not what it used to be. Even Bill's star power is fading. I don't want to be reading about Hillary Clinton Executive Orders 3 or 4 years from now, so I encourage every Republican who is interested to throw his/her hat in the ring and let it play out the way it always has.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 1:05 pm to Decatur
Portman is out as of this morning.
Carson 10%
He's seems like a nice guy but he has no experience - like 0 - good luck in making that argument now.
Carson 10%
He's seems like a nice guy but he has no experience - like 0 - good luck in making that argument now.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 1:07 pm to Decatur
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Yeah, I wouldn't wish a 51.4 point polling average lead on anyone.
LINK
Of course, she is the clear front runner in the nomination process. But she is vulnerable to the left, and many lefties feel betrayed by obama who they thought wouldn't be a corporate frick.
Its a much bigger threat to her than Jeb or christie in the general.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 1:20 pm to Hawkeye95
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But she is vulnerable to the left, and many lefties feel betrayed by obama who they thought wouldn't be a corporate frick.
I respectfully disagree. I've never seen someone who has been such a consensus candidate (speaking solely about 2016 here). There may be some disaffecteds on the left. That's ok. They can vote for Bernie Sanders if they want to feel better.
And think about this: How many Dems are forgo the opportunity to put Bill Clinton back in the White House? This stuff sells itself.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 1:25 pm to Decatur
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I respectfully disagree. I've never seen someone who has been such a consensus candidate (speaking solely about 2016 here).
oh i think she wins both the nomination and the general.
But she is more vulnerable for the nomination IMHO. If she gets obama's share of the woman vote, she wins the general. And everything says she will get more. But she will be hit on by the left in the primaries, and will have a bit more of a fight on her hands.
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