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Nola's 25 page and 25' proposed non-smoking ordinance
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:36 pm
I tried to update my last post unsuccessfully.
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The measure, which amends the city's already-existing smoking ordinances under its Smoke-Free Air Act, prohibits not only cigarettes but all tobacco products, including electronic smoking devices, hookahs and "natural or synthetic marijuana" and "other plant products" in bars, casinos, private clubs, correctional facilities and other "public" areas, including workplaces and school campuses, colleges and specialty schools. District A City Councilwoman Susan Guidry co-sponsored the measure.
Here are several new rules under the measure:
Under the ordinance, smoking also is prohibited within 25 feet of entrances and windows at businesses. It also prohibits smoking in all parks and all public transportation platforms, stations and shelters, as well as within 25 feet of parks and public transportation platforms, stations and shelters, and within 200 feet of entrances, exits or outdoor areas of schools. (It's not applicable to people who live within that boundary or driving through it.)
Smoking also is prohibited at all outdoor property adjacent to buildings owned, leased or operated by the city; all outdoor shopping malls (including parking lots); outdoor arenas; stadiums and amphitheaters (and 25 feet within bleachers and grandstands); outdoor recreational activities and 25 feet from all outdoor public events; and outdoor services lines — including lines (and cars in lines) for bank tellers and parking lot attendants — within 25 feet of the point of service; outdoor common areas of apartment buildings, condos, retirement and nursing homes; and work areas not confined to offices shared by two or more people, like construction sites and work vehicles.
Smoking still is allowed in homes and vehicles, hotel rooms designated as smoking, tobacco businesses, private and semiprivate rooms or apartments in assisted living facilities designated as smoking, and places that manufacture, import, wholesale or distribute tobacco products.
Tobacco retailers can't build within 300 feet of parks, churches, libraries, schools, childcare facilities and similar places for young people. The ordinance grandfathers in existing businesses already within those boundaries.
Businesses impacted by the ordinance must post "no smoking" signs and remove all ashtrays.
Violators of the ordinances are subject to a $100 fine for the first violation, and $200 for a second within 12 months of the first, and $500 for a third. Enforcement is overseen by the city's Department of Health as well as the city's property management employees, the Department of Safety and Permits, Parks and Parkways, NORDC, NOPD, NOFD and code enforcement officers.
The measure is effective 30 days after its adoption.
The 25-page ordinance outlines in its first eight pages the dangers of smoking and secondhand smoke, citing multiple health studies from the U.S. Surgeon General, the National Cancer Institute, Institute of Medicine of the National Academies and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, among others. It outlines that there is "no risk-free level of exposure to second-hand smoke" and that "establishing smoke-free workplaces is the only effective way to ensure that secondhand smoke exposure does not occur in the workplace, because ventilation and other air cleaning technologies cannot completely control exposure of nonsmokers to secondhand smoke."
It also warns of residual tobacco contamination, or "thirdhand" smoke, like smoke residue and buildup on indoor surfaces.
The ordinance — which calls electronic cigarettes, aka e-cigs or vaporizers or vape pens, "unregulated high-tech smoking devices" — also cites the FDA's recent statements regarding e-cigs' "inconsistent or non-existent" "quality control process."
It asserts there is "no legal or constitutional 'right to smoke'" and "business owners have no legal or constitutional right to expose their employees and customers" to secondhand smoke. "On the contrary, employers have a common law duty to provide their workers with a workplace that is not unreasonably dangerous," it says.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:38 pm to arseinclarse
I don't see the problem. I don't want to sit in a restaurant full of smoke or have to walk thru giant clouds with my kids when we go to dinner
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:39 pm to arseinclarse
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It asserts there is "no legal or constitutional 'right to smoke'" and "business owners have no legal or constitutional right to expose their employees and customers" to secondhand smoke. "On the contrary, employers have a common law duty to provide their workers with a workplace that is not unreasonably dangerous," it says.
plenty of non smoking places to work. pansies.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:40 pm to arseinclarse
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smoking also is prohibited within 25 feet of entrances and windows at businesses.
This is like the most. I hate having to go out of a place and get hit with that barrage of smoke.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:40 pm to arseinclarse
Good, they should also ban smoking while sitting in line at a drive thru
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:41 pm to arseinclarse
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smoking also is prohibited within 25 feet of entrances and windows at businesses.
This will go over like a fart in a space suit. They can't enforce the thou shall not kill law or littering. No way they enforce this.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:41 pm to TH03
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It asserts there is "no legal or constitutional 'right to smoke'" and "business owners have no legal or constitutional right to expose their employees and customers" to secondhand smoke. "On the contrary, employers have a common law duty to provide their workers with a workplace that is not unreasonably dangerous," it says.
With this logic, we might as well shut down all commerce.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:41 pm to arseinclarse
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oking also is prohibited at all outdoor property adjacent to buildings owned, leased or operated by the city; all outdoor shopping malls (including parking lots); outdoor arenas; stadiums and amphitheaters (and 25 feet within bleachers and grandstands); outdoor recreational activities and 25 feet from all outdoor public events; and outdoor services lines — including lines (and cars in lines) for bank tellers and parking lot attendants
This I don't like. I think smokers need more options at Arenas than having to go all the way outside and to the bottom of the arena/dome.
They used to have smoking areas at the top. Now you have to find a stairwell.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:42 pm to arseinclarse
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Enforcement is overseen by the city's Department of Health as well as the city's property management employees, the Department of Safety and Permits, Parks and Parkways, NORDC, NOPD, NOFD and code enforcement officers.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:42 pm to Napoleon
the superdome has a great place to smoke
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:43 pm to TH03
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the superdome has a great place to smoke
If you sit at the top it takes you a good ten minutes to get down there though.
I don't smoke and I don't see how smokers can't go a few hours without smoking, but I do think they need a smokers roost in the terrace.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:43 pm to TigerWise
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They can't enforce the thou shall not kill law
You can't say that they haven't tried by placing signs throughout the city.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:47 pm to Napoleon
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smoking also is prohibited within 25 feet of entrances and windows at businesses.
This would prohibit smoking in the entirety of the cbd outdoors. Not gonna happen.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:48 pm to TH03
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the superdome has a great place to smoke
yeah. the bathroom. I have to hold my breath just to take a piss
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:50 pm to arseinclarse
That is way too far reaching. Smoking seems like it is dying out on its own though. When I was a teen I was the only person in my group that didn't smoke, now it seems like it isn't as cool for kids to smoke, especially outside the south. I have no idea what the actual statistics on it are though.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:54 pm to nes2010
Nowadays I see kids doing ecigs but with nicotine free juice.
No I don't walk up and ask random people. When I go buy my shite there are always some young people ordering juice with 0 MG nicotine
No I don't walk up and ask random people. When I go buy my shite there are always some young people ordering juice with 0 MG nicotine
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:54 pm to arseinclarse
No way in hell this will pass. The LAST thing we need is more of the nanny state bullshite. Already have too many laws. More laws = bad.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:16 pm to arseinclarse
I hate smoke, but that ordinance seems a bit much.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:20 pm to arseinclarse
That's fine but banning e-cigs is just retarded, they don't bother anyone.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:29 pm to arseinclarse
I am for it, go outside and do your thing.
At some point it may also be a revenue issue, people from civilized parts of the world know nothing but smoke free bars and rest. You can see them walk in then right back out of places that allow smoking in and around the quarter.
Lets move NO into the 90s and pass this.
At some point it may also be a revenue issue, people from civilized parts of the world know nothing but smoke free bars and rest. You can see them walk in then right back out of places that allow smoking in and around the quarter.
Lets move NO into the 90s and pass this.
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