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re: ASU to play Div1 hockey
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:44 pm to More beer please
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:44 pm to More beer please
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If you cant agree with this then idk what to tell you.
I don't think you understand the word competitive.
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It is very clear that the talent pool of just about every womens sport is extremely dilluted. Its just biology and genetics.
I don't even know what this means.
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:45 pm to pkloa
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Title IX doesn't limit the creation of any sport, male or female.
Not directly. But because of...
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The responsibility for which programs exist lies solely on the individual athletic department.
Then yes, it does. What athletic department wants to create a larger budget by adding in a sport they know is probably needed when another money sucking sport is latched onto it?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:46 pm to More beer please
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So yes, I am against just adding another sport to add if because the athletic department is forced to. My feelings for mens sports are similar. Prove you can compete and win in the company you are with currently, then you can move up.
How do you know that there isn't a women's club sport at ASU that doesn't fit this criteria?
Or there wouldn't be given the chance?
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Not everyone should be given a chance at the next level just because someone of the opposite sex is.
What next level? All I'm talking about is the collegiate level.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:47 pm to More beer please
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What athletic department wants to create a larger budget by adding in a sport they know is probably needed when another money sucking sport is latched onto it?
You don't get it.
They are all "money sucking" aside from some Football and Basketbal programs.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:47 pm to KosmoCramer
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That's the reason why collegiate sports were even created.
Like I said earlier, I can't even have a basic discussion with you because you have no basic knowledge.
Maybe explain it better to me, since im dumb. What does high screens, pick and rolls, and spot up threes have to do with education?
Do you think that athletics enhances education? Did Jamarcus Russell get more of an education than the average accounting student?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:49 pm to More beer please
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What athletic department wants to create a larger budget by adding in a sport they know is probably needed when another money sucking sport is latched onto it?
The Tar Heels seem to be doing fine. They have 27 varsity sports, according to Wikipedia. Some schools are well rounded, some schools really just want football and basketball, to hell with the rest.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:49 pm to KosmoCramer
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I don't think you understand the word competitive.
I dont think you do.
Mens college basketball is way more competitive overall than womens. Quit thinking competitive in the individual sense. There are countless upsets year after year in majority of mens sports, especially mens basketball. March Madness was named exactly for this.
However, because the womens athletic talent pool is so dilluted you rarely have games that are truly competitive. You can pick straight chalk in most all womens brackets of any sport and come out on top. Why? Because the womens top tier talent is way above your average womens college athlete.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:50 pm to Hester Carries
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Maybe explain it better to me, since im dumb.
You need to understand the reason why collegiate athletics exists, but you refuse.
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What does high screens, pick and rolls, and spot up threes have to do with education
Strategy is merely a means to an end, it's not the goal of collegiate athletics.
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Do you think that athletics enhances education?
The fact that you ask this proves my point of the basic understanding that you lack.
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Did Jamarcus Russell get more of an education than the average accounting student?
He didn't want any form of education, so no.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:51 pm to KosmoCramer
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How do you know that there isn't a women's club sport at ASU that doesn't fit this criteria?
I dont. And I am saying if they are excelling currently against club competition then they should get consideration for moving into varsity status. They shouldnt get consideration just for having a team and being female. Thats not instilling competitiveness or striving for excellence like you suggested.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:53 pm to More beer please
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Mens college basketball is way more competitive overall than womens. Quit thinking competitive in the individual sense. There are countless upsets year after year in majority of mens sports, especially mens basketball. March Madness is was named exactly for this.
However, because the womens athletic talent pool is so dilluted you rarely have games that are truly competitive. You can pick straight chalk in most all womens brackets of any sport and come out on top. Why? Because the womens top tier talent is way above your average womens college athlete.
You don't grasp the point of college athletics either. And you're painting with an extremely broad brush.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:55 pm to KosmoCramer
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Maybe explain it better to me, since im dumb.
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You need to understand the reason why collegiate athletics exists, but you refuse.
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The fact that you ask this proves my point of the basic understanding that you lack.
Dude, you continually cast broad claims of my lack of understanding in response to DIRECT questions to you about your point of view. You would make the worst fricking teacher haha.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:58 pm to KosmoCramer
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You don't grasp the point of college athletics either.
And you cant answer direct examples disputing your point or questions without using your own broad brush. fricking patheticPosted on 11/18/14 at 3:01 pm to Hester Carries
The purpose of collegiate athletics varies by individual, but at it's core it was established to instill values, experience, and qualities that are unable to learned, or more efficiently obtained, in the classroom.
Take college out of it, why do people play sports?
Take college out of it, why do people play sports?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:02 pm to More beer please
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And you cant answer direct examples disputing your point or questions without using your own broad brush. fricking pathetic
Your only reasoning for sports to exist is to participate in them at a high level. Would that be correct?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:03 pm to stlslick
GO DEVILS!!! 
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:05 pm to KosmoCramer
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Take college out of it, why do people play sports?
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The purpose of collegiate athletics varies by individual
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The purpose of athletics varies by individual
Money, fame, fun, approval, camaraderie, release of stress/aggression, to get sex and look cool, exercise, boredom.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:06 pm to KosmoCramer
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Your only reasoning for sports to exist is to participate in them at a high level. Would that be correct?
No, but the 2-14 womens field hockey team who can barely fill a roster shouldnt be bumped up to varsity status just because a Mens soccer team was. Sometimes club sports are meant to be just that, club sports. Not everyone was meant to play on the varsity level in college and not everyone should get the opportunity. That is what keeps the competitiveness.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:11 pm to Hester Carries
I suppose I should have made clear, organized sports, but that's not a bad list.
99.9% of college athletes will never attain fame or money from sports so we can throw those out.
I'm not sure what you mean by approval.
In my opinion and I would say in the opinion of many collegiate athletes, they compete in order to better themselves in many ways and learn valuable life skills along the way (this is somewhat secondary for the individual). Skills like competition, teamwork, social skills, among many others.
Many of these can be gained from other extracurricular activities, it doesn't have to come from athletics, but it's a great vehicle to attain them.
99.9% of college athletes will never attain fame or money from sports so we can throw those out.
I'm not sure what you mean by approval.
In my opinion and I would say in the opinion of many collegiate athletes, they compete in order to better themselves in many ways and learn valuable life skills along the way (this is somewhat secondary for the individual). Skills like competition, teamwork, social skills, among many others.
Many of these can be gained from other extracurricular activities, it doesn't have to come from athletics, but it's a great vehicle to attain them.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:15 pm to KosmoCramer
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99.9% of college athletes will never attain fame or money from sports so we can throw those out.
No we cant. Just because they wont, doesnt mean thats not their intent.
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I'm not sure what you mean by approval.
"My father/the cool kids etc will accept me if im good at sports or make the football team"
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In my opinion and I would say in the opinion of many collegiate athletes, they compete in order to better themselves in many ways and learn valuable life skills along the way (this is somewhat secondary for the individual). Skills like competition, teamwork, social skills, among many others.
I would say that this is an idealistic view MAYBE held by their parents but not accounting for even 10% of the thought process of the average college or even high school athlete.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:17 pm to More beer please
Upgrading a team to the varsity level should be earned, I agree. But with that upgrade comes a much better talent pool.
Look, I don't sit down and watch women's basketball, it's not the most entertaining thing on TV. But there are tons of women that have benefited from title IX and it's protections that they never would have been able to receive.
It's got it's flaws like nearly every other law out there.
Look, I don't sit down and watch women's basketball, it's not the most entertaining thing on TV. But there are tons of women that have benefited from title IX and it's protections that they never would have been able to receive.
It's got it's flaws like nearly every other law out there.
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