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re: Dennis Prager on why poverty does NOT cause crime

Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:46 pm to
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Tap the brakes, Big Scrub - this isn't 1955 anymore. ANYONE who wants an eduction can get it in 2014 - plenty of money to go around. I borrowed money to go to school, pretty sure Jake did, as did 90% of my law school classmates. Don't tell me brothers can't be bothered to fill out the paperwork. There are whole separate funds of money and other programs just for black folks to go to school.


Due to draconian sentencing laws (largely put into place under Clinton) even very small-time criminal offenses preclude student loan borrowings. And keep in mind - black people are arrested at much higher rates than white people...even when the overall commission levels of the crime are about equal. (The simple way to think about it would be the white kid with the professional dad gets off with a wrist slap and no record while the black kid is fully prosecuted.)

This doesn't tell the whole story, but I believe sentencing and prison reform is an absolute necessity. The ridiculous, abusive system in place now preys on minorities and the poor and effectively erects permanent roadblocks for them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:51 pm to
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The simple way to think about it would be the white kid with the professional dad gets off with a wrist slap and no record while the black kid is fully prosecuted

i do criminal defense in a 50-50 area primarily and have practiced criminal defense in BR, Lafayette, as well as smaller towns like DeRidder, Cameron, and Jennings. if we're talking minor offenses, everyone gets a "slap on the wrist" the first time.

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The ridiculous, abusive system in place now preys on minorities and the poor and effectively erects permanent roadblocks for them.

i agree with you here. i disagree that race has anything to do with the implementation or execution

that doesn't mean that blacks and the poor are not disproportionately affected, mind you, but the "crack legislation is racist" argument is just stupid. i think the harshest penalties i've come across in LA are for PCP, anyawy. legislatures react to new moral panics by making sentencing harsher
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