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re: Dennis Prager on why poverty does NOT cause crime
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:33 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:33 pm to Ace Midnight
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The recipe for avoiding poverty is very simple: 1. Stay in school 2. Don't have children out of wedlock 3. Refrain from engaging in criminal activity 4. Work at some kind of job
Right. But again, you are starting from a different place than a lot of these kids are. If no member of your family ever owned a home or attended college or had a bank account or even showed you how to have a bank account and if you lived in perpetual fear of the "system"...you don't just carry out these simple instructions.
I know it's hard to conceive of (it's really hard for me, as I used to be the type to give the same speech you are giving now.)
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:55 pm to Big Scrub TX
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The recipe for avoiding poverty is very simple: 1. Stay in school 2. Don't have children out of wedlock 3. Refrain from engaging in criminal activity 4. Work at some kind of job
Right. But again, you are starting from a different place than a lot of these kids are. If no member of your family ever owned a home or attended college or had a bank account or even showed you how to have a bank account and if you lived in perpetual fear of the "system"...you don't just carry out these simple instructions.
I know it's hard to conceive of (it's really hard for me, as I used to be the type to give the same speech you are giving now.)
i've taught about 100 kids from africa ... they actually know what 'poor' means ... getting all of your food the first day of the month ... one shirt ... no modern comforts of western civilization - tv, ac, cell phones, etc ... they didn't own a home, have a bank account, or parents who attended college ... many of them, probably a majority, went on to attend college ... none of them ... and i mean literally, none of them, were ever a discipline problem in class ... i'm sure you have an explanation which excuses black americans, however ...
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:50 am to Big Scrub TX
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If no member of your family ever owned a home or attended college or had a bank account or even showed you how to have a bank account and if you lived in perpetual fear of the "system"...you don't just carry out these simple instructions.
a. again, when you speak about these things in terms of values, the whole "history" argument becomes irrelevant
b. nothing you listed should cause any issues with valuing education, avoiding having kids, avoiding criminal behavior, and getting some sort of job in youth. these don't require a superior education, owning a home, owning a bank account, or "living in perpetual fear of the 'system"
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:30 am to Big Scrub TX
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If no member of your family ever owned a home or attended college or had a bank account or even showed you how to have a bank account and if you lived in perpetual fear of the "system"...you don't just carry out these simple instructions.
I agree that almost all the problems in the black/white community stem from this. So with that being said, we are basically throwing good money away investing in something that will never change, right? Or is the answer to have the government/churches/etc. start raising kids instead of the parents? Seems like the definition of insanity to just keep giving handouts to people that will never change.
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