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re: Dennis Prager on why poverty does NOT cause crime
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:38 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:38 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I assure you, an exceptional worker at McDonalds will be afforded many more opportunities than one who simply tells themselves it's a dead end job and does little more than show up every day.
I definitely would agree but the reality is the opportunities are likely going to just be more of the same. Not a real chance to get ahead.
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there are some stunning stats about mcdonalds (and walmart, for that matter) hiring managers who started at low-levels with the company
yes there are. And I have admiration for them, but those are the exception not the rule. Most people work at mcdonalds or wal-mart for very short periods of time b.c the job fricking sucks.
What I would say is that most people on this board if they were put in a situation where they were struck to zero could make a stunning comeback. But what you have to realize is everyone is not you. Some people are stupid. Some people are lazy. Some people are stupid and lazy. Some people had bad role models and have no idea what hard work can yield.
Those people see lack of opportunity, maybe wrongfully so, but they are the ones that turn to crime. It appears to be an easier path to getting ahead.
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:44 pm to Hawkeye95
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But what you have to realize is everyone is not you. Some people are stupid. Some people are lazy. Some people are stupid and lazy. Some people had bad role models and have no idea what hard work can yield.
i fully understand this
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:24 pm to Hawkeye95
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I definitely would agree but the reality is the opportunities are likely going to just be more of the same. Not a real chance to get ahead.
What do you consider an opportunity, and what do you consider "getting ahead"? The majority of Americans are in debt. The majority of Americans do not have sufficient savings for retirement. The majority of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
Acting like everyone besides the extremely impoverished are on some other level of riches that cannot be obtained by poor folks is silly. You're describing something that only a small portion of Americans accomplish. People in poverty can obtain middle class status fairly easily if they try. We're not talking about rising from the ghetto to be the next Donald Trump.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:27 pm to Hawkeye95
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I assure you, an exceptional worker at McDonalds will be afforded many more opportunities than one who simply tells themselves it's a dead end job and does little more than show up every day. I definitely would agree but the reality is the opportunities are likely going to just be more of the same. Not a real chance to get ahead.
We are coming into the holiday shopping season where totally unqualified people in poverty are given temporary jobs.
The biggest employer of these losers is Wal-Mart. After the holidays are over 25% of the temps are offered full time jobs by Wal-Mart. It's called meritocracy.
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