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re: ObamaCare architect mouths off yet again; cause problems for Dems

Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
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But this will likely play into the SCOTUS decision on exchanges and other things.

dishonesty in the law making process should not impact the courts one iota.

Even if obama lied, it should have no bearing on the ruling by the courts. otherwise its clear the courts are completely corrupt. They are supposed to be above politics, not knuckle dragging like the rest.

As for gruber, dean probably wants a flux capacitor to go back and shut him up!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
98958 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:09 pm to
It goes beyond "dishonesty in the law".

This asshat has submitted an amicus brief on this case saying the exact opposite of what he has been caught saying on film.

I don't think SCOTUS looks favorably on that kind of thing.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
58328 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:56 pm to
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dishonesty in the law making process should not impact the courts one iota.
It absolutely should in the pending case. The question is one of intent of the lawmakers. If they are actively being deceptive about their intended purpose of the law... how can one interpret the law accurately?
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11883 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 7:47 pm to
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dishonesty in the law making process should not impact the courts one iota.

Even if obama lied, it should have no bearing on the ruling by the courts. otherwise its clear the courts are completely corrupt. They are supposed to be above politics, not knuckle dragging like the rest.



Wait so an author of a bill who painstakingly lays out how every word and phrase was carefully crafted to lock people in and mislead should be of no relevance to a case where these people claim this was a simple 'typo'?

Seriously? The Supreme Court no longer has to debate whether there was an intent to exclude citizens of states with no exchange - the dude laid it out for the world to hear and the 'political ramifications'. That is done.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:06 pm to
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Even if obama lied, it should have no bearing on the ruling by the courts. otherwise its clear the courts are completely corrupt. They are supposed to be above politics, not knuckle dragging like the rest.


In most appellate cases, courts generally only consider stuff on the record, i.e., that was introduced in the lower court.

But, the Supreme Court is a different animal entirely and can take Judicial notice of such things if they wish. Basically, the Supreme Court can pretty much do whatever the frick they want to if they have the necessary 4 or five votes depending on the situation.
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