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Who should take offense with Gruber's statements?

Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:34 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:34 am
Should it be the left who blindly believed all they were fed by the administration and were too burdened by "stupidity" to understand the shell game, or, the right who for quite some time recognized that whether the fees were labelled a tax and regardless of which end was taxed, it would result in increased costs for the People?


Does the left even comprehend that they are the dim bulbs that the administration was counting on?

Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:39 am to
Obviously the left, but are they smart enough to notice?

Gruber and the Democrat leadership don't think so. They are probably right.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43150 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:39 am to
DEMs only take offense that it has been so publicly outed. They knew they were lying.

The DEM voter base don't care - they get something for free. IT's their way of life. They either don't care that they are stupid or they revel in the fact.

Conservatives are not offended - they knew it was a lie and were powerless to stop it - Their only comfort now is in "I told you so."

There may be a few people out there who truly believed the horseshite - perhaps they are offended that the admin was openly laughing at how stupid they are.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27845 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Who should take offense with Gruber's statements?


I don't think anyone didn't truly know the shell game was going on. The media and leftists can play dumb, but they knew it was a lie.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79507 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:49 am to
Nobody should be offended. The reality was recognized by a ton of people and repeated over and over again. Nobody truly got tricked, they just chose to believe a more palatable characterization.

Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Does the left even comprehend that they are the dim bulbs that the administration was counting on?


Battered wife syndrome.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:53 am to
No. I checked out Mother Jones and its either"this isn't new" or "stupid teabaggers are making a big deal over nothing!"

If lib-progs would admit they had been lied to...or even got pissed about being called stupid then maybe we could work to change the things about our government that piss us all off. Unfortunately, too many lib-progs are opposed to freedom and encourage this sort of manipulation because it allows them to bring about gov control they so desperately want.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 8:55 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31639 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:55 am to
Slightly OT, and i'm sure this was discussed in other threads, but I seem to recall the date on the youtube video being 2013 (the actual youtube date, not the date of Gruber's "confession"). Why is this just now making the rounds?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18174 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:12 am to
Jonathon Gruber obviously gets a hard-on every time he insults the American voter, but was his endgame really to fool the American voter? If it was, it did not work. At NO POINT has Obamacare ever enjoyed majority support by Americans. Not at its proposal, not during the time it was being "debated," and certainly not now. Dimocratix legislators were voting for this bill against the wishes of their constituents. If anybody is stupid in this equation, it's the dimocratix congress. They voted for Obamacare, not the voters.

I don't think the question should be who should be offended the most, but who should be the most ashamed.
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