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BAMA vs. Adams

Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:26 am
Posted by TigerBandMan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1287 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:26 am
I have seen a number of threads about the penalty called on Alexander near the endzone, and while it sucks for us, i guess it is mostly just karma.

How many times did Adams draw flags for us with his "King James" flops in key drives?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64730 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:27 am to
Adams was not pulling the guys leg off before being pushed back.
Posted by BhamBengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
2476 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:27 am to
Wasn't the Florida flop hands to the face though
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:27 am to
Karma deciding referee decisions in a football game. Seems legit.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:34 am to
quote:

How many times did Adams draw flags for us with his "King James" flops in key drives?


What part of this issue is so damn hard for some of you to grasp?

The issue is not with Vadal Alexander or the guy who pulled his leg and then flopped when rightfully shoved. It's not even with the official who threw the flag, because giving him the benefit of the doubt he may very well have only seen Alexander's shove because from his angle he could not have seen him being pulled.

Nope...the issue is that once the flag was thrown and the officials came together for about 45 seconds as Jennings stood near them pleading the case, at no point did any other official on the field step up and suggest that considering they had allowed 5-7 seconds of pushing and shoving by both teams PRIOR to Vadal's shove that MAYBE they either wave that or call it offsetting. The fact that none of them seemed to see any of the stuff that preceded the Alexander shove (or did but did not bother to speak up) is what's troubling.

Had the only shove that took place been Vadal's and this guy would have both baited him and then flopped, we'd have an analogous situation to Jamal Adams this year. That's just not remotely what happened.

In fact...I'm sick of trying to explain this. Does anyone have a full clip of that entire play? Not just the gif of Vadal's shove, but from start to finish so we can see exactly what happened prior to that?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62063 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:21 am to
If you recall, when Adams flopped against Bo Wallace, even though Bo was 100% in the wrong, the refs created a bogus offsetting penalty so as to not penalize Ole Miss.

No penalty yardage was marked off.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14469 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:40 am to
Only females believe in "karma"
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

How many times did Adams draw flags for us with his "King James" flops in key drives?
Once?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66813 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

How many times did Adams draw flags for us with his "King James" flops in key drives?


totally different

This wasn't out of bounds pushing a guy for no reason.
This was a guy pushing a dude who was pulling on him, in the last 2 minutes of a game.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:52 pm to
You're missing the point I believe. No one's denying that the 'Bama player was legitimately touched illegally after the play. However, he initiated the touching and in that situation you either ignore it, like Ritter was doing, or you call both parties to get their attention.
Adams was actually touched illegally without making first contact, flopping notwithstanding.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:08 pm to
Regardless if Adams flopped or not. The opposing player still made unnecessary contact. He just drew attention to it. Alabama gets the calls and that's that. It was a no call in most normal people's eyes .
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