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re: Jacques Talk: The day I parked in Nick Saban's spot
Posted on 11/4/14 at 3:52 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Posted on 11/4/14 at 3:52 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
The Jilted Lover Syndrome around here is pathetic.
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 4:27 am to biglego
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Running a dirty program is one thing but mere personality doesn't matter.
Yeah, I agree.
It's like some people are in a state of conceded rationalization about Saban at this point -- meaning -- they've conceded that he's the best, so now they have to rationalize (reach/exaggerate/fabricate etc.) why he's a bad person.
As for Doucet's story, I don't take much of anything from it. Saban would possibly have a different account of what happened. Also, regarding this part:
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"That's okay," Saban deadpanned
Saban's humor is typically deadpan/dry. It sounds to me like this was Saban's way of making light of the situation. This part especially sounds like Saban's brand of deadpan humor:
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"I tell you what guys (oh no). If we COACH, the way you guys PARK, we're not going to win a game this year," Saban declared.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 4:30 am
Posted on 11/4/14 at 5:32 am to biglego
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Running a dirty program is one thing but mere personality doesn't matter.
I should have said -- I agree to the extent that we're just talking about idiosyncrasies. I think there's a baseline of decency that matters in terms of treating people with dignity/respect/honesty, etc. -- and I think Saban is fine in this area, despite the negative caricature many people want to try to portray him as.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 7:40 am
Posted on 11/4/14 at 6:52 am to Samso
quote:Priorities.
Why do fans care if the coach is an a-hole or not? Winning games/championships is all that really matters. Everything else is just noise.
People matter.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 7:00 am to Big EZ Tiger
a good coach has to have many of the qualities that NS has, a big ego, but tempered with logic and intelligence. Our present coach has one of these qualities.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 7:03 am to michael corleone
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For Saban, ot is a process and people are just part of it. For LM, its about people. Two different perspectives, both successful.
Well said
Posted on 11/4/14 at 7:38 am to Mike da Tigah
I don't think it's well said at all. What's the basis for this notion that Miles cares more about people than Saban does?
It's just another example of people trying to rationalize that Miles is somehow a better person to compensate for the losing. It's an empty, overcompensating rationalization.
It's just another example of people trying to rationalize that Miles is somehow a better person to compensate for the losing. It's an empty, overcompensating rationalization.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 7:44 am to inadaze
We could be walking around with at least 2, if not 4, more crystals if Saban had stayed.
Just be Glad we got 2 in the last 10+ years .....
Just be Glad we got 2 in the last 10+ years .....
Posted on 11/4/14 at 7:47 am to PG
Highly doubt that
Sabin won 1 legit crystal at bama
Other 2 gift wrapped by sec officials in 2009 which gave them 2 wins that shoulda been losses and then 2011 when media made unprecedented move to get a rematch even tho okla state deserved it
Sabin won 1 legit crystal at bama
Other 2 gift wrapped by sec officials in 2009 which gave them 2 wins that shoulda been losses and then 2011 when media made unprecedented move to get a rematch even tho okla state deserved it
Posted on 11/4/14 at 7:57 am to Samso
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Why do fans care if the coach is an a-hole or not? Winning games/championships is all that really matters. Everything else is just noise.
Ok so I did not get past this post...
How you treat people says a lot about your character. And a decade from now games/championships will be noise and your character will be all that matters!
Posted on 11/4/14 at 7:57 am to runningTiger
So if saban stayed, he never would have won another championship at LSU? Sure - the guy takes over a POS program at AL, wins 3 of them and blows right past LSU
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:10 am to inadaze
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It's just another example of people trying to rationalize that Miles is somehow a better person to compensate for the losing. It's an empty, overcompensating rationalization
Spot on.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:14 am to trooploop
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I was working at Big Ten media day in Chicago in the late 90s. All of the Big Ten head coaches were assembling for a group picture. Every coach but Nick. He finally arrives 15 minutes late. Paterno says to Saban loud enough for quite a few people to hear, "Do you try to be an a-hole?"
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:17 am to klrstix
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How you treat people says a lot about your character. And a decade from now games/championships will be noise and your character will be all that matters!
So the 2003 NC is just noise to you since the head coach was probably an arse?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:23 am to Paul Allen
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Winning games/championships is all that really matters. Everything else is just noise.
Our current coach wins games and championships. Why can't we have it both ways?
Look saban is a great coach, but so is Les. Bama needed a lil luck to win theirs as well. If we can beat them on Saturday, then the only thing standing between them is s mulligan.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:31 am to PG
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the guy takes over a POS program at AL, wins 3 of them and blows right past LSU
Baha our all time record is lopsided. Bama has always been better than LSU. They have like 20 something titles. Shula had them on the brink of a sec west title. Injuries to prothro and broyle really fricked him over. If it wasn't for an ot loss to Miles. Shula would have been in ATL.
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You guys are just as insane. I think saban is great, but you guys act like Les is some loser. Well he is Loyal to the program and is the winningst coach in our history. So if he's so bad, then all the ones before him must have sucked. les coached when the sec won 7 straight national titles and he has coached and beat all of those teams and coaches.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:32 am to PG
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We could be walking around with at least 2, if not 4, more crystals if Saban had stayed.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:38 am to dgnx6
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Bama needed a lil luck to win theirs as well
We got lucky to have a chance in 07 to.
Both are great coaches. I love Miles and I'm glad he is our HC, but Saban is the best coach in college right now.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:43 am to Samso
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Why do fans care if the coach is an a-hole or not? Winning games/championships is all that really matters. Everything else is just noise.
because winning championships is NOT all that really matters in college. this "noise" you refer to is damn important; graduating players, esp the non NFL guys, building character, representing LSU, a university, with class and dignity and running an honest program.
if you are not an LSU student or graduate I understand that LSU is your "professional" team, but to me and many other alum LSU is our alma mater's team. big difference.
saban should be in the pro's if winning at all costs is all that matters. oh, now I remember, he failed in the pro's.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 8:55 am to LSU GrandDad
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