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Disputed 1972 Ole Miss game
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:30 pm
I've heard very different accounts of people who were there. A lot of people seemed to just think it was an exciting game and didn't notice anything controversial at all, but I've heard that others (even LSU fans) thought it was ridiculous or even humorous that LSU was able to get those three plays off. I was wondering if some of the older people had anything to add.
I read something odd though. This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left. If that's true, weren't games really 59:56 long? If it said 00:00 after that play, the game would have been over even if that really meant there were 0.99s left.
I've also talked to people about the LSU-Auburn game in 2007. The guy caught it with 4 seconds left and another three seconds ticked off. I can't imagine had the ball been dropped (the second-to-last play in Ole Miss 1972 was an incompletion) that the clock would have expired. It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.
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I read something odd though. This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left. If that's true, weren't games really 59:56 long? If it said 00:00 after that play, the game would have been over even if that really meant there were 0.99s left.
I've also talked to people about the LSU-Auburn game in 2007. The guy caught it with 4 seconds left and another three seconds ticked off. I can't imagine had the ball been dropped (the second-to-last play in Ole Miss 1972 was an incompletion) that the clock would have expired. It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:55 pm to theknightswhosay
I will never forget that game..as a boy listening to the radio with my dad, I was on the floor praying for the result I got.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:08 pm to theknightswhosay
I was in the south endzone...
Yeah, I am that old...
Yeah, I am that old...
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:11 pm to theknightswhosay
My mom (Ole Miss fan) still bitches about that game.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:17 pm to udtiger
was in the student section....turned 21 that night
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:23 pm to theknightswhosay
Meh, sometimes the refs frick up the clock, it happens.
Probably happened way more back in the old days than today.
Probably happened way more back in the old days than today.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:30 pm to theknightswhosay
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This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left.
That is backwards. If there are no tenths on a clock, then the time would stay on 4 seconds until there were 3 seconds left. So, there could have been 3.1 seconds left with the clock showing 4 seconds.
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It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.
The clock operator can start the clock late or early, and stop it late or early. In the case of the Auburn game, I'm sure if the pass was incomplete, the clock operator would have stopped it right away.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 5:11 pm to IAmReality
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Meh, sometimes the refs frick up the clock, it happens.
Until this article, I didn't know the operator was actually trying to peak through people to see the quarterback's legs moving. That could definitely account for an extra second, but the fact that they looked at the video frame-by-frame and couldn't see a distinct error I think is telling.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:33 pm to theknightswhosay
Was there in the south end zone east side with my dad, I was 15. What a late game comeback. Do not forget the passes were not in the air very long due to Bert's arm and the extremely short field.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 7:06 pm to austintexastiger
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Looked like more than 3 seconds to me, although it looks like it's slowed down, so hard to tell. Jones did have to look a little while and pivoted before he decided to throw.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:29 pm to theknightswhosay
I was in section 12 of the south EZ right where the pass was caught. I think some of the Ole Miss fans are still waiting for the NCAA to award them the game. It's a good thing it was Ole Miss and not Alabama.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:50 pm to theknightswhosay
some distortion, but here's an audio link to John Ferguson's radio call, of the game winning drive. Pretty cool hearing the horn go off, as Jones throws to Davis.
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lsu-ole-miss-72
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:01 pm to austintexastiger
that interview was great, Bert Jones answered as good as you could possibly want
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:12 pm to theknightswhosay
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC the year before (1971) in Jackson, LSU trailed 24-22 with about 8 seconds to play and threw a quick sideline pass to get into field-goal range. But despite the receiver going out of bounds, the clock ran out and the Tigers were not able to line up for a game-winning FG attempt.
Nobody talks about that, you only hear about the following year's game.
Nobody talks about that, you only hear about the following year's game.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:24 pm to theknightswhosay
I can tell you everyone sitting in our section was wondering how the clock didn't strike 12.....
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:26 pm to theknightswhosay
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This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left. If that's true, weren't games really 59:56 long? If it said 00:00 after that play, the game would have been over even if that really meant there were 0.99s left.
This is why basketball clocks go to 10ths near the end.
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The guy caught it with 4 seconds left and another three seconds ticked off. I can't imagine had the ball been dropped (the second-to-last play in Ole Miss 1972 was an incompletion) that the clock would have expired. It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.
If the refs are paying attention this should not be a problem at the very end of the game, esp. not now with instant replay.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:29 pm to theknightswhosay
"Entering Louisiana. Please set your clock back 4 seconds"
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:35 pm to SpidermanTUba
We were in the red zone. No problem getting off 2 plays in 4 seconds. We are LSU. Clock management always has and always will be our forte.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:50 pm to geauxpurple
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It's a good thing it was Ole Miss and not Alabama.
Alabama would have awarded themselves the game and the national title for that season.
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