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re: Is Liverpool pulling a Tottenham ?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:38 am to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:38 am to StraightCashHomey21
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This guy gets it.
I agree, but I think you guys are just writing off everyone as a whole. We have a very different mentality when it comes to transfers. Markovic and Can were players who we bought with eyes on next year. From the beginning no one expected them to hit the ground running. Lallana has been excellent. I'm astounded how wrong I was about him. The two fullbacks have also been terrific buys.
You have a point with Loveren, but I called that from day one. Dude was a terrible buy and for an even worse price. Origi will be brilliant, but again, will be one for the future, like Lazar. Ballo has yet to play with a strike partner outside of Spurs, where we won 3-0. Studge's injury has killed any chance for his success and I will reserve judgment until Brendan plays him in the way he should to be played.
Whether you agree with the transfer strategy or not (I personally don't), most of these guys were never intended to light the league on fire from day one. Its comparing apples to oranges.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 11:39 am
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:48 am to StraightCashHomey21
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I think his point was your transfers this season haven't panned out, which is true. Our transfers (for the most part) have been excellent.
The transfer policies were apple and oranges, you guys went big on a couple of WC players and paid way over the odds on a couple (Shaw/Herrera)..
edit: not saying they are bad players
We went for youth and depth and did pay over the odds for Lallana & Lovren... and whiffed on our big target, Sanchez...
IMO.. we needed to bring in more ready to play guys... And a fricking DM.. I think most LFC supporters have not been sold on BR's transfer policy since he's been here..
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 11:56 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:56 am to TFTC
I agree that the transfer policies were apples and oranges. But maybe they shouldn't have been. We had to get some big name guys that could perform right away. I think the same probably goes for you guys but that's not how the transfers were addressed.
This is just a matter of opinion, however.
This is just a matter of opinion, however.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:01 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Whether you agree with the transfer strategy or not (I personally don't), most of these guys were never intended to light the league on fire from day one. Its comparing apples to oranges.
Adding young depth wasn't the way to go, replacing impact.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:03 pm to PTBob
I wish we had that kinda money.... It'll take a couple of successful seasons running to get there and to attract a higher quality player...
£36mm net spend (£10 of which is on loan), compared to £122mm
But yeah, we def could have spent a little better... and BRs stubbornness in upgrading certain areas is frustrating..
£36mm net spend (£10 of which is on loan), compared to £122mm
But yeah, we def could have spent a little better... and BRs stubbornness in upgrading certain areas is frustrating..
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:13 pm to TFTC
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£36mm net spend (£10 of which is on loan), compared to £122mm
The net doesn't really mean anything. You guys were going to be big spenders regardless if you sold Luis or not.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:14 pm to TFTC
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IMO.. we needed to bring in more ready to play guys... And a fricking DM.. I think most LFC supporters have not been sold on BR's transfer policy since he's been here..
yup yup yup
BR has been average if that in the transfer market.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:17 pm to StraightCashHomey21
are you insane? The net means everything... sure the Suarez £ helped us keep it down, but we can't afford to spend over a £100mm pounds on transfers in one window.. only a small handful of clubs can do that
We would have spent, yes, because we are in CL and needed to add players (plus the £ that comes with that) It may have gone a little higher if we'd had gotten Sanchez, but thats about it...
We would have spent, yes, because we are in CL and needed to add players (plus the £ that comes with that) It may have gone a little higher if we'd had gotten Sanchez, but thats about it...
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:25 pm to TFTC
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but we can't afford to spend over a £100mm pounds on transfers in one window.. only a small handful of clubs can do that
Yes Liverpool can do that with out selling Suarez, are you insane.
Historically Liverpool has been one of the biggest spenders in England.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:28 pm to StraightCashHomey21
No, we can't... we've never done that or even come remotely close..
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:28 pm to TFTC
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No, we can't... we've never done that or even come remotely close..
70's and 80's for starters
but this is the first time United or Liverpool went over 100 mill, doubt we see that again for a while.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:44 pm to StraightCashHomey21
you are high as a kite... even if you account for inflation
Under Shankly he had a net spend under a million his entire time at LFC
Total Buys 1,337,250
Total Sales 715,500
Under Paisley he had ~ 2mm net spend over his entire time at LFC
Total Buys 5,368,000
Total Sales 3,526,000
Fagan ~2mm and Dalglish close to ~50mm (the majority of which was in his recent spell)
So, no... we have never come close to being able to spend over £100m net in one window...
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:47 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Liverpool can if they want. It's one of the richest clubs in the world and in the 70's and 80's it out spent everyone. That's my point.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:58 pm to StraightCashHomey21
No we are not... One of the most successful, historically, yes... but that has not been the case of late.. even back then, there was a major signing every so often, not a huge galactico policy... we were just well run, well coached and always replaced sold players with equal or better... It was a great fricking run...
We are not one of the richest clubs now, we almost went into fricking administration 4 years ago... I give you guys credit... your success over the past couple of decades has allowed you to be in a pretty good place financially, probably the envy of word football from a commercial stand point...
We are on solid ground and I hope it changes, but we are probably 5th in the EPL in terms of richest clubs... Obviously when you count all the tiny clubs around the world, we'd be in the upper echelon, but we are def in another financial league when it comes to the upper tier...
We are not one of the richest clubs now, we almost went into fricking administration 4 years ago... I give you guys credit... your success over the past couple of decades has allowed you to be in a pretty good place financially, probably the envy of word football from a commercial stand point...
We are on solid ground and I hope it changes, but we are probably 5th in the EPL in terms of richest clubs... Obviously when you count all the tiny clubs around the world, we'd be in the upper echelon, but we are def in another financial league when it comes to the upper tier...
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 1:03 pm to TFTC
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No we are not... One of the most successful, historically, yes... but that has not been the case of late.. even back then, there was a major signing every so often, not a huge galactico policy... we were just well run, well coached and always replaced sold players with equal or better... It was a great fricking run...
Yes they were well coached and made great buys but they were the biggest spender back then.
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We are not one of the richest clubs now,
Forbes disagrees having you as the 10th richest in the world.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 1:06 pm to TFTC
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we almost went into fricking administration 4 years ago
Yeah there is absolutely no way we can compete with United in regard to finances. This club came that close to not even existing (ok exaggeration, but still a possibility).
Posted on 10/24/14 at 1:07 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Forbes disagrees having you as the 10th richest in the world.
There's a MASSIVE gap between to top 3 or 4 and the rest. 10th might sound high, but its really not in comparison (what we're currently comparing).
Posted on 10/24/14 at 1:10 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Way to quote that out of context.. I accounted for that...
if you don't think there is a gap between the top 1/2 of that and the bottom, you are a moron... and the gulf is probably even bigger when you account for the amount of money that has come out of pocket from some of the owners of those upper tier clubs..
Back to the point, we cannot afford a net spend of over £100 in any one window... not even close.
if you don't think there is a gap between the top 1/2 of that and the bottom, you are a moron... and the gulf is probably even bigger when you account for the amount of money that has come out of pocket from some of the owners of those upper tier clubs..
Back to the point, we cannot afford a net spend of over £100 in any one window... not even close.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 1:11 pm to BleedPurpleGold
I agree there is a huge gap but before the Luis sale, the Liverpool owners were ready to shell out 60 to 70 million. You are a top 10 richest club
Posted on 10/24/14 at 1:15 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Liverpool owners were ready to shell out 60 to 70 million
you really believe what you read in the papers? No one knows what they were going to spend and we were always going to sell more than just Luis
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You are a top 10 richest club
means nothing without context...
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