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World War Three?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:17 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:17 am
So let's forget about how unrealistic such a conflict would be. Let's just assume for a minute that tensions escalate with Russia to a breaking point, and eventually we find ourselves in another global conflict.
How would this newest World War play out? Would there be a "feeling out" period where we each send some ground troops and maybe some naval battles, or is it go-time from day one? Are we lobbing a hundred nukes over there and mechanized Ebola and whatever the f else we have before they do the same to us?
We were having a discussion about this last night, and I have no idea how it would play out. Thoughts?
How would this newest World War play out? Would there be a "feeling out" period where we each send some ground troops and maybe some naval battles, or is it go-time from day one? Are we lobbing a hundred nukes over there and mechanized Ebola and whatever the f else we have before they do the same to us?
We were having a discussion about this last night, and I have no idea how it would play out. Thoughts?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:22 am to FootballNostradamus
quote:Stick to football
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:26 am to FootballNostradamus
Strategic deterrence pretty much ensures that major superpowers aren't going to go into a full scale war in the age of nuclear weapons.
WWIII would surely be the end of life on Earth.
WWIII would surely be the end of life on Earth.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:35 am to FootballNostradamus
Mutually assured destruction.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:37 am to FootballNostradamus
Ebola Pandemic trumps WWIII.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:39 am to FootballNostradamus
There wouldn't be a world war 3 in the same sense as there was a ww2 and ww1.
A preemptive crippling strike would have to take place to spark such a thing, and even if carried out then the receiver of said strike would have to be completely obliterated militarily or else their country would be turned into an ashy crater.
I think the superpowers with nuclear capacities understand this. It would be a two day war. You bomb us, we bomb you, you regret bombing us. War is over because there's nothing left to bomb.
A preemptive crippling strike would have to take place to spark such a thing, and even if carried out then the receiver of said strike would have to be completely obliterated militarily or else their country would be turned into an ashy crater.
I think the superpowers with nuclear capacities understand this. It would be a two day war. You bomb us, we bomb you, you regret bombing us. War is over because there's nothing left to bomb.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:46 am to FootballNostradamus
WWIII won't be like the others, at least not at first probably. My guess, if it does happen, it will be in the middle east - who knows, maybe this ISIS crisis will touch it off. I think that's one reason why our admin is so scared of doing what needs to be done - look at Syria, Russia is a firm supporter of them and would step in if we went all out in that area. Or maybe it would start with Iran or NK bringing China into the fold. Don't think it is a possibility? Think again. When countries see their way at stake, they will react.
But, nukes would probably only be used if a country feels that is the only way to avoid total destruction...and I can see Iran doing that.
But, nukes would probably only be used if a country feels that is the only way to avoid total destruction...and I can see Iran doing that.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:51 am to FootballNostradamus
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I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein
Does this answer your question?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:57 am to FootballNostradamus
If you haven't been paying attention, WWIII is happening right now in a proxy war style. Ukraine, Syria, Iran.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:06 am to Wtodd
The idea of WW3 being all about nuclear capabilities is antiquated cold war rhetoric. However unlikely, a conventional war between the United States Military and other military "superpowers" is feasible. In all likelihood the US would have to be the aggressor because the world knows their militaries (especially their airforce and navy) would be beaten rather quickly.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 9:07 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:27 am to Cdawg
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If you haven't been paying attention, WWIII is happening right now in a proxy war style. Ukraine, Syria, Iran.
By your "logic", this would be WWXXII or so...
Korea, Suez, Vietnam (Parts 1-3), Israel (parts 1-5), Lebanon, Cyprus, The Balkans, India-Pakistan (parts 1-3), Afghanistan (parts 1-3), Cambodia (1,2) and don't get me started on Latin America and Sub-Saharan Africa proxy wars.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:37 am to Spaceman Spiff
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WWIII won't be like the others, at least not at first probably. My guess, if it does happen, it will be in the middle east - who knows, maybe this ISIS crisis will touch it off. I think that's one reason why our admin is so scared of doing what needs to be done - look at Syria, Russia is a firm supporter of them and would step in if we went all out in that area. Or maybe it would start with Iran or NK bringing China into the fold. Don't think it is a possibility? Think again. When countries see their way at stake, they will react.
But, nukes would probably only be used if a country feels that is the only way to avoid total destruction...and I can see Iran doing that.
Gotta love people’s inability to read as 90% of the replies so far have been about how this won’t happen which I acknowledged in my original subject line, but this is my exact question. Will the beginning of the war be played with the B-team while the starters sit on the bench? Will a certain number of deaths have to compel public perception to be willing to ignite the nuclear aspect or will the threat of another country’s nuclear abilities force countries to instantly unload their nuclear capabilities?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:00 am to FootballNostradamus
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Gotta love people’s inability to read as 90% of the replies so far have been about how this won’t happen which I acknowledged in my original subject line, but this is my exact question. Will the beginning of the war be played with the B-team while the starters sit on the bench? Will a certain number of deaths have to compel public perception to be willing to ignite the nuclear aspect or will the threat of another country’s nuclear abilities force countries to instantly unload their nuclear capabilities?
Best guess is that the "B team" players will get involved first, and when one really starts doing bad a supporter will step in...kind of like the ripple effect.
As I said earlier, maybe this ISIS thing is what touches it off. Imagine this scenario: the bombing campaign fails (which it is) and host countries (ex Iraq, Syria) once again rely on the U.S. to do the fighting and things get out of hand - maybe Iran's troops "mistakingly" fire on ours, or whatever - we all know it takes just a spark for things to get out of control.
Now Syria, on the other hand, is a mess worse than a bed of snakes. If we go in, which may very well end up happening due to failure of bombing campaign, and Russia doesn't like what it sees - who says some of their "advisors" (just like in Vietnam and Korea) won't join in...and then imagine if said advisors were killed, etc. Then what happens?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:00 am to FootballNostradamus
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I do not know how the Third World War will be fought, but I can tell you what they will use in the Fourth — rocks! ~ Albert Einstein
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:02 am to FootballNostradamus
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I can see Iran doing that.
I don't believe they have a nuclear capability at this moment. The only countries I think would use them in desperation are Pakistan, India, Israel and North Korea (if they have a reliable delivery system.) The other major nuclear powers have their stockpile for nothing more than the illusion of carrying a big stick. Perhaps they may use a smaller yield device against a military target such as a naval fleet. Civilian targets are out of the question.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 10:09 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:10 am to tbrig3211
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I don't believe they have a nuclear capability at this moment. The only countries I think would use them in desperation are Pakistan, India, Israel and North Korea (if they have a reliable delivery system.) The other major nuclear powers have their stockpile for nothing more than the illusion of carrying a big stick.
With the fact that Iran has already developed weapons-grade materials, I would have to disagree on that. They haven't been monitored well enough to know what they really have. NK wouldn't deliver weapons further than where opposing forces are - maybe even U.S. bases in Japan - but their concern would be regional at best.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:35 am to terd ferguson
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Strategic deterrence pretty much ensures that major superpowers aren't going to go into a full scale war in the age of nuclear weapons.
WWIII would surely be the end of life on Earth.
Experts claimed in 1914 that a general European War was impossible in the new enlightened age of the 20th century. After all, it had been a century since a large scale war had been fought in Europe.
They named the war they claimed would never happen The War To End All Wars even before the guns fell silent, so sure was the experts that this would be the last war of its kind. They were proven wrong 20 years later.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:44 am to DD44
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They were proven wrong 20 years later.
And again and again and again on smaller scales. Wars will always be fought no matter how much some claim the human race has advance. Always.
Is the ISIS crisis the beginning? Looks like ex-Iraqi officers are training ISIS to fly and fight in Syria. Things just elevated...
LINK
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 11:36 am
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