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re: Kerry: We Must 'Put Real Islam Out There'
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:45 am to McLemore
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:45 am to McLemore
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it is 40 people. 40. Do I need to explain to you what an order of magnitude is? And that's actually beside the point because there is no connection between this family of 40 inbred con-artists (and not in some metaphorical sense--they actually are overt con-artists, as silly as that may sound, but they conned you apparently) and any form of Christianity.
ISIS is what 10k? 20k? Let's say 20k.
There are 1.6B muslims in the world. Or .00125% of the muslim population.
WBC would be .0000018%
Sure there is a OM issue here but ISIS is a VERY small percent of islam, just as WBC is a very. Both are well below .01%, which is nothing. Its noise.
Might it grow? Yes, but right now its really small.
And I really despise islam, I think its worse than christianity but frick, this isn't islam. its some weird variant.
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:51 am to Hawkeye95
quote:And the total number of radical Islamists make up about .001%.
ISIS is what 10k? 20k? Let's say 20k.
There are 1.6B muslims in the world. Or .00125% of the muslim population.
WBC would be .0000018%
I'm talking about the beheaders - which by the way, our own tax dollars helped create and train.
I sure hope that doesn't dampen the enthusiasm for the sheople of this board who get off to shitting their pants in fear of these folks.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:55 am to Hawkeye95
Would you rather us ceasing the comparison between ISIS/Islam and WBC/Christianity and begin comparing ISIS/Islam to Russia/Christianity?
Or can we just put our thinking caps on and see the clear nuances in ideologies and populations and that murderers and non-murderers, though they may claim spiritual purpose from the same texts and beliefs, have nothing to do with each other?
ETA: Replied to wrong person.
Or can we just put our thinking caps on and see the clear nuances in ideologies and populations and that murderers and non-murderers, though they may claim spiritual purpose from the same texts and beliefs, have nothing to do with each other?
ETA: Replied to wrong person.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:43 pm to Hawkeye95
My issue is, you both (and now Carbola) are making stupid arguments by bringing up WBC.
If you read my posts on this board, i've been attacked for not falling for the anti-mulsim propaganda, and even the war on terror. I think it's all bullshite, and I'll go so far as to say I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the beheading videos were all fake and the ransom debacle was a botched inside job. There's just too much shadiness, war propaganda and odd timing with all of this for there not to be some mischief going on in the WH, Pentagon, Congress, etc.
But here are just three major problems with citing WBC:
1) Read their history. It's not some bastardization of Christianity, or radical offshoot, or malignant variant. Just read about them please.
2) I see you do understand order of magnitude, megatude, teratude, and yet still either don't see the total insignificance of WBC, from a numbers standpoint, or pretend not to. And consider the support ISIL has garnered, even in Europe--I defy you to find a single Christian who supports WBC, outside of the 40 members. LINK. Also, no one really knows how big ISIL/ISIS/TIS is/are, and even though i think the attention we're giving them is BS, I do believe they are growing. WBC will be the same inbred family it's always been.
3) Has WBC ever resorted to violence of any sort? Not only have they not resorted to violence, their whole scheme is based on pissing people off so bad with their words and signs that people smack them and get sued.
You may as well be comparing ISIL to the New Orleans Saints as to WBC, except the Saints have 13 more people on their active roster than WBC and admittedly aren't nearly as imposing as WBC this season.
My attitude has changed, I'm not arguing this any more.
If you read my posts on this board, i've been attacked for not falling for the anti-mulsim propaganda, and even the war on terror. I think it's all bullshite, and I'll go so far as to say I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the beheading videos were all fake and the ransom debacle was a botched inside job. There's just too much shadiness, war propaganda and odd timing with all of this for there not to be some mischief going on in the WH, Pentagon, Congress, etc.
But here are just three major problems with citing WBC:
1) Read their history. It's not some bastardization of Christianity, or radical offshoot, or malignant variant. Just read about them please.
2) I see you do understand order of magnitude, megatude, teratude, and yet still either don't see the total insignificance of WBC, from a numbers standpoint, or pretend not to. And consider the support ISIL has garnered, even in Europe--I defy you to find a single Christian who supports WBC, outside of the 40 members. LINK. Also, no one really knows how big ISIL/ISIS/TIS is/are, and even though i think the attention we're giving them is BS, I do believe they are growing. WBC will be the same inbred family it's always been.
3) Has WBC ever resorted to violence of any sort? Not only have they not resorted to violence, their whole scheme is based on pissing people off so bad with their words and signs that people smack them and get sued.
You may as well be comparing ISIL to the New Orleans Saints as to WBC, except the Saints have 13 more people on their active roster than WBC and admittedly aren't nearly as imposing as WBC this season.
My attitude has changed, I'm not arguing this any more.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 3:49 pm
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