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re: Update: Jennings was never higher than 7th in SEC Passer Rating (RAT)
Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:23 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:23 pm to Quid Pro Quo
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Note: To qualify, player must have played in 75% of his team's games and have a minimum of 15.0 pass attempts per game played. (posted at bottom of Rating Chart)prior to Game 3:
Kenny Hill has the highest QB Rating (QBR) in the SEC at 93.9 (3rd in the nation) which you would expect since he has the highest overall stats, followed by ALA (Sims 90.0) and AUB (Marshall 80.1)
so explain to me under your formula- how is this possible?
week 1 Auburn
starter J. Johnson 12/16 243 2/0
off the bench NMarshall 4/6 50 0/0
Through week 2
JJohnson 15/20 277 2/0
NMarshall 14/25 151 1/0
So under your formula how is Marshall 3rd in the SEC when he isn't even the best on his team, not to mention he is ineligible under your own guidelines??
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:26 pm to TigerintheNO
That also disqualifies Harris and pretty much nullifies OP's argument against Jennings. Lots of words to say very little.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:33 pm to TigerintheNO
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So under your formula how is Marshall 3rd in the SEC when he isn't even the best on his team, not to mention he is ineligible under your own guidelines??
Because the op doesn't understand the difference between "per game" (average) and "minimum per game". Jennings only shows two games because at the top of the chart it clearly says "Passing - Games vs. FBS (I-A) Teams Only".
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:51 am to TigerintheNO
It is Very, Very simple. The mislabeled Chart that claimed Jennings was the highest rated QB is a Passer Rating Chart (RAT) not a QB rating (QBR).
Jennings threw a bunch of bombs against an FCS school but he only attempted 13 passes so his Passer Rating Week 2 should have been based on Wis game only. Once again a Passer Rating is not a QB rating.
The CFBstats company that puts out the Passer Rating Chart subscribes to the NCAA rule of 15 atts/per game. They wrote me and said they had faulty box score data sent to them which they entered in the Chart.
The QB Rating is a broader ESPN metric that includes not only Passes, but runs, defenses, opponents ranking and many other factors like home or away. It has a criteria of 20 plays per game not passes. This is because with Dual-Threat QBs they do a lot of running, not just Passing: Game Managing as Jennings says.
The top rated claim was wrong. And you know that Jennings was not the highest rated QB in the SEC or 5th in the nation. None of this matters now because he threw an INT and wrecked his inflated Passer Rating with or without Game 2 against the FCS munchkins and we are heading into the SEC.
The reason it mattered to me at all is because we only have 2 QB's and they run and they will get battered. We need them both and to both be game ready. They both have different strengths but one is not the best in the WEST and the other a dog, Harris per Miles was always the best talent, told SEC reporter he wins head-to-head comparison 10 out 10 times but lacks game experience. The media analysts are coming down hard on Jennings for zeroing in on Dural and not opening up the whole field because a single option will be covered in the SEC. Harris has not been given much game time in these non-conference tune-ups as was promised.
Here are the two charts QB Rating (top) and Passer Rating (bottom) and you will note the absence of QBs on the Passer rating who did not qualify. Jennings however got all his games on the Rating list.
Jennings threw a bunch of bombs against an FCS school but he only attempted 13 passes so his Passer Rating Week 2 should have been based on Wis game only. Once again a Passer Rating is not a QB rating.
The CFBstats company that puts out the Passer Rating Chart subscribes to the NCAA rule of 15 atts/per game. They wrote me and said they had faulty box score data sent to them which they entered in the Chart.
The QB Rating is a broader ESPN metric that includes not only Passes, but runs, defenses, opponents ranking and many other factors like home or away. It has a criteria of 20 plays per game not passes. This is because with Dual-Threat QBs they do a lot of running, not just Passing: Game Managing as Jennings says.
The top rated claim was wrong. And you know that Jennings was not the highest rated QB in the SEC or 5th in the nation. None of this matters now because he threw an INT and wrecked his inflated Passer Rating with or without Game 2 against the FCS munchkins and we are heading into the SEC.
The reason it mattered to me at all is because we only have 2 QB's and they run and they will get battered. We need them both and to both be game ready. They both have different strengths but one is not the best in the WEST and the other a dog, Harris per Miles was always the best talent, told SEC reporter he wins head-to-head comparison 10 out 10 times but lacks game experience. The media analysts are coming down hard on Jennings for zeroing in on Dural and not opening up the whole field because a single option will be covered in the SEC. Harris has not been given much game time in these non-conference tune-ups as was promised.
Here are the two charts QB Rating (top) and Passer Rating (bottom) and you will note the absence of QBs on the Passer rating who did not qualify. Jennings however got all his games on the Rating list.
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