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Petraeus: Obama Iraq plan a good starting point
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:52 pm
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DENVER — President Obama’s decision to intensify the fight against Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria is a good starting point and could succeed, retired Gen. David Petraeus said Thursday.
Speaking at a 9/11 commemoration in Denver, Petraeus said Obama made a forceful case for battling militants who control large parts of the two nations.
Obama said Wednesday he was authorizing U.S. airstrikes inside Syria and expanded strikes in Iraq. He also again asked Congress to authorize a program to train and arm Syrian rebels who are fighting both Islamic State militants and forces of Syrian President Bashar Assad.
“I thought that the president made a very strong statement last night about the threat posed by ISIL, a very compelling argument about the need to combat that threat, and a good point of departure,” Petraeus said, using one of the acronyms for the Islamic State group.
With a new unity government in place in Iraq and American air power overhead, Iraqi security forces can put up an effective fight, despite the desertions and retreats they suffered when the militants were advancing, he said.
“Do not underestimate the Iraqi security forces,” he said. Some of their problems were political and were resolved with the new government.
The Islamic State militants do not have strong local support in Iraq and their strength should not be over-rated, he said.
Petraeus said the current crisis in Iraq is serious but not as desperate as the situation in December 2006, when Petraeus commanded a buildup in U.S. forces ordered by then-President George W. Bush.
The situation in Syria is different, he said, with no unified army to push the Islamic State fighters back under the cover of U.S. fighter jets. Petraeus did not comment on the proposal to arm Syrian rebels.
Asked whether the Islamic State militants hoped to draw the U.S. into greater involvement by beheading two American journalists, Petraeus said, “If someone has a death wish, he’s expressed it quite effectively.”
Army Times article
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:54 pm to Wolfhound45
Not listening to a non convicted murderer.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:57 pm to Wolfhound45
Never really been a fan. James Mattis should have gotten the command of the surge.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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James Mattis should have gotten the command of the surge.
Interesting reading lately made it clear that General Petraeus was more of a figurehead, that General Ray Odierno was the individual who actually "led" the surge (from behind the scenes as the Deputy Commander).
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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James Mattis should have gotten the command of the surge.
Semper Fi Hell Hound!
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:03 pm to Wolfhound45
Better starting point would have been to keep a Status of Forces in Iraq but ole Pussy Obama had to show an ENDED WAR.
Or Ole Puss could have wiped these evil henchman out as they rolled across the desert 8 months ago.
Good find though.
Or Ole Puss could have wiped these evil henchman out as they rolled across the desert 8 months ago.
Good find though.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:36 pm to Wolfhound45
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I thought that the president made a very strong statement last night about the threat posed by ISIL, a very compelling argument about the need to combat that threat, and a good point of departure,” Petraeus said, using one of the acronyms for the Islamic State group.
quote:
Speaking at a 9/11 commemoration in Denver, Petraeus said Obama made a forceful case for battling militants who control large parts of the two nations.
Boy, they must really have some pics on this guy
Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:50 pm to Wolfhound45
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General Ray Odierno was the individual who actually "led" the surge
Please link, although I will try to find this myself. Curious to know what "led" means, maybe operational leadership not strategic.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:33 pm to Wolfhound45
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Interesting reading lately made it clear that General Petraeus was more of a figurehead, that General Ray Odierno was the individual who actually "led" the surge (from behind the scenes as the Deputy Commander).
Odierno is. the. man. Have always heard great things about him from those that have worked for him.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:45 pm to redandright
" some pics"
I was going to post those exact words.
Marv Albertesque
I was going to post those exact words.
Marv Albertesque
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:47 pm to wfeliciana
Obama knows what's up. You armchair political jockeys don't.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:49 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Obama knows what's up.
All he knows is the polls.
All he knows is the polls.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:50 pm to wfeliciana
Seemed to me like P4 was pretty much running things.
And, I know two things about GEN Odierno and GEN Austin.... (1) almost all said they are awesome, and (2) they are both big mofos.
And, I know two things about GEN Odierno and GEN Austin.... (1) almost all said they are awesome, and (2) they are both big mofos.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:51 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Exactly, they voted twice for a full blown retard.
We wouldn't be in this situation if not for Bush/war deferment chicken hawk. But hey Halliburton made money with the life's of dead American soldiers.
We wouldn't be in this situation if not for Bush/war deferment chicken hawk. But hey Halliburton made money with the life's of dead American soldiers.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:52 pm to Good Times
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All he knows is the polls.
Exactly. He's a politician just like all the rest of them are. Republican and Democrate. All frauds.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:53 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Some are just worse than others.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:15 pm to TT9
It's almost as if MSNBC is posting through your account.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:22 pm to Me4Heisman
So for once Msnbc is spot on? I can sleep with that.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:25 pm to OleWar
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Please link, although I will try to find this myself. Curious to know what "led" means, maybe operational leadership not strategic.
It would take some effort, but the bottom line is I read them as part of a discussion from the Army War College. It talked about how General Petraeus shaped administration policy in regards to the surge (what is appropriate advice, etc). I never served in Iraq and really had not read much on the surge. The reality is General Odierno (MNF-I Deputy Commander) was in disagreement with General Casey (MNF-I Commander) (who was advocating the exact opposite to President Bush). Working hand in hand with General (Ret) Jack Keane and Stephen J. Hadley, he shaped the policy from theater. When President Bush decided to go forward with the surge he appointed General Petraeus to command MNF-I and kept General Odierno as his DCG. General Petraeus was in command but the surge policy was advocated by General Odierno (which also put him at odds with the service chiefs, they also wanted to cut their losses and move on).
TLDR - but it makes for a fascinating study.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:27 pm to TT9
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Exactly, they voted twice for a full blown retard.
Something you can readily identify with, right?
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