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re: HBO rebroadcasting The Wire on HBOSG
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:19 am to diat150
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:19 am to diat150
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hamsterdam.. really?
Not that I'm arguing your premise, but what does a singular plot mechanism have to do with the representation of the lives of urban Baltimore? What about the way the people in the projects treat one another and/or the police?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:23 am to diat150
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and? that doesnt mean the show was anywhere close to real. hamsterdam.. really?
Actually, people (real people who are familiar with Baltimore and crime there) coming out and saying that it was very accurate means exactly that the show was "close to real." And you pick one single thing from the show and roll with that as equivalent to everything else on it? What about the other 100 things that are all very real and accurate in terms of Baltimore and its crime?
The show was written and created by people in the know, and consulted on by actual drug dealers, politicians, writers, etc.
You can dislike The Wire for any number of reasons, but saying that it is not "anywhere close to real" is not only incorrect, but makes you look pretty stupid.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:42 am to diat150
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that doesnt mean the show was anywhere close to real. hamsterdam.. really?
Yeah, it was a fricking sin for a fictional show to explore a fictional scenario, an example of a solution to an intractable problem people talk about IRL but rarely try to implement. What a misuse of fiction that was.
If you can't get past the concept, I can understand that, but a more interesting criticism would be one that examined how that concept played out, how the characters involved behaved, etc. If those things weren't reasonably believable, then it would tilt to an objective fail. If it wasn't entertaining, or you just thought it was a stupid premise, then a subjective fail, and then, "That's just like your opinion, man."
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:58 am to Spock's Eyebrow
This thread.............smh
If you don't like the wire, take your bitchy arse to another thread.
If you don't like the wire, take your bitchy arse to another thread.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:29 pm to wadewilson
I may try to rewatch. I really wanted to like the show, but remember losing interest by season 3. I am certainty no expert on Baltimore or its crime. Not really sure who is. There are many people that will tell you the wire was the best series and writing on tv ever, and I do not agree. It was mostly hipsters saying that though.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:42 pm to Rollie Fingers
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It was mostly hipsters saying that though.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:11 pm to Rollie Fingers
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I am certainty no expert on Baltimore or its crime. Not really sure who is.
Baltimore Police reporter David Simon?
Baltimore detective Ed Burns?
Baltimore criminal Felicia Pearson?
You really try to outdo yourself with each post, don't you.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:22 pm to Rollie Fingers
Never heard someone have such negative feelings towards The Wire, but to each their own I guess.
I'm in the process of re-watching it on HBOGO. Almost through Season 2, and can't wait to watch Seasons 3 & 4 again. I remember being blown away by every episode those 2 seasons.
I'm in the process of re-watching it on HBOGO. Almost through Season 2, and can't wait to watch Seasons 3 & 4 again. I remember being blown away by every episode those 2 seasons.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:23 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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Baltimore Police reporter David Simon?
He actually took the title of "police intern" when he was working on Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets. I just picked it up yesterday and read the afterword (in the middle of another book right now) and he said he did pretty much everything a detective does except arrest people. Only one instance where a guy was trying to run and he got him against a car and the detective he was following told him to pat the guy down.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:35 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
So these folks did a commercial for the show saying it was authentic. Any chance they were paid to say that? I suspect so. It was certainly in their own self interest to promote the show.
I dont intensely dislike the show. Just think its a bit overhyped with a tendency to attract the same type of wannabe crowd as breaking bad.
I dont intensely dislike the show. Just think its a bit overhyped with a tendency to attract the same type of wannabe crowd as breaking bad.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:45 pm to Rollie Fingers
quote:lol
I dont intensely dislike the show.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 4:10 pm to Rollie Fingers
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The wire maybe the most overrated series of all time feeding lame conservative stereotypes on the war on drugs. Yawn.
Well I'm going to start by saying David Simon, the creator of The Wire, is as liberal as it gets. You can see this all throughout the show, especially during the last two seasons, but seeing as you seem to have stopped after the second season, you don't know this so your opinion is ill informed.
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So these folks did a commercial for the show saying it was authentic. Any chance they were paid to say that? I suspect so. It was certainly in their own self interest to promote the show.
Sure they could have been paid to say anything the producers want them to, but with Simon, who spent a years as the police writer for the Baltimore Sun, as well as a full year interning as a detective reaching his book, Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets (also turned into a show that was on NBC.)as well as Ed Burns who is a former BCP and Baltimore City school teacher, probably wouldn't ask the people of Baltimore to authenticate anything when they pretty much are the real deal. You add that plus:
Jay Landsman (Former BCP detective who appeared in the show during seasons3-5 and has a few characters based off of him.)
Felicia Pearson (Known Baltimore criminal)
Robert F. Chew (Baltimore resident)
Edward T. Norris (Former Maryland State Police Superintendent)
Richard Burton (Baltimore resident)
and many more but I'm not going down the list and checking all of them; they all worked on the show.
There is also a list of characters that were based off of actual people that live and worked on the streets of Baltimore.
Also like to add folks, that I just read where they are remastering it, but don't expect a marathon anytime soon.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:08 pm to BluegrassBelle
The Wire is on my list of HBO shows to watch.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 9:32 pm to ladytiger118
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The Wire is on my list of HBO shows to watch.
you are off my internet hardlegging list now
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