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re: QB Stat Comparison: Season Openers for SEC West and LSU QBs

Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:27 pm to
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Again. It inflated his #'s


it happened though. you can't take it away from him. it was an amazing throw.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:32 pm to
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And hey if it will shut your homer mouth we can meet somewhere..




why even argue with this fool. he's obviously a helluva fisherman but lacking in common sense, cause statements like that cause moments down here. I'm a huckleberry
Posted by TheBuescherMan
Abu Dhabi
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:32 pm to
+High YPA
+Good overall yardage
+Two touchdowns and a 2-pt conversion pass
+No interceptions
+Couple balls dropped that shouldn't have been
+Had some good scrambles (one led to 80yd TD pass)

-Low completion percentage

The anemic offense in the first 3 quarters had more to do with the horrible o-line play, non-existent run game, and conservative play-calling than it did Jennings.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:35 pm to
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The anemic offense in the first 3 quarters had more to do with the horrible o-line play, non-existent run game, and conservative play-calling than it did Jennings.



agreed. rewatching the game really tells the tale.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:36 pm to
I'd say, overall, he played well. Didn't frick up (see: Wallace, Bo). Not exactly stellar overall, but he showed flashes of excellence.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:49 pm to
stats are overrated.

Looks at this it would make sense that Jefferson would be the best QB in this bunch and Lee the worst, but that is far from the truth.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:50 pm to
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After getting dominated in the first half, the offense looked like a different unit in the second. After a first half with only one decent drive, and that was a one play 80-yard pass play, LSU became a different team in the second. Look at the second half drives:

9-50 FG
9-30 FG
8-59 TD
3-53 TD
6-20 Punt
5-7 End of game

An offense that couldn't do a thing right suddenly became a force. They scored 20 points in 4 possessions, and gained 192 yards in 29 plays. It was like a different team showed up.


LINK
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:54 pm to
if we keep him clean in the pocket he will do damage down the field.
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 2:55 pm to
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Looks at this it would make sense that Jefferson would be the best QB in this bunch and Lee the worst, but that is far from the truth.
It's a small sample size, and you have to consider the opponent, but it's certainly something to consider.











Jefferson was not the best QB in that group.
Lee was not the worst QB in that group.
Jefferson was better than Lee.

Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 3:01 pm to
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I'd say, overall, he played well. Didn't frick up (see: Wallace, Bo). Not exactly stellar overall, but he showed flashes of excellence.


Now I can agree here.....
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 3:02 pm to
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why even argue with this fool. he's obviously a helluva fisherman but lacking in common sense





Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 3:22 pm to
There is definitely talent for Cam to work with, and I think that's what should make everyone feels a little better about the situation than past young or "projects QBs." Jennings has a real coach to help tune up his game and take advantage of his strengths.

Some of the good includes the fact that he grew more poised and confident as the game wore on. This definitely was NOT the case against Iowa. After his INT in that game, the wheels came off and the game got away from him. In this game, his best, most consistent work came down the stretch.

Cam also shouldn't have to drastically change the offense from last year. I know they threw in some option, and that's fine if Jennings can handle it, but his most comfortable throws were in the pocket. He had 2 or 3 really nice out routes, and a good post route that were in that 8-15 yard intermediate range. Just having the threat of a deep ball and consistent mid range passing means that the 1st half of this last game shouldn't happen again. In fact, the running game should be able to run wild if Jennings can build on that second half.

What wasn't so good? When there was a lot of pressure in the first half, Jenning's pocket presence wasn't good at all, he spun himself into the defender's crosshairs rather than stepping up in the pocket. Hopefully time and experience will settle him down, but that was a big problem in the first half.

And the screen passes. They were rushed and just weren't very good. The option was iffy, too, He had a couple of good reads, but probably had more incorrect ones.

But again, the offense doesn't have to be re-written. Jennings isn't a spread guy or an option guy. He looks like he has it in him to be a pocket passer with more ability to extend plays. He can run a lot of the same stuff that Mett did. He will likely make more mistakes, but he shouldn't have to win games the way Mett did last year with such a young defense. He just needs to manage things, take what defense gives, pass to set up the run, and keep the defense rested. I don't see any reason after Sat to think that he can't do those things.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 3:25 pm to
I believe he will build on this performance. it was a stark contrast to the last time we saw him in competition (spring game, iowa)

he improved from those outings, and i think he's going to torch SHS
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 4:25 pm to
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I believe he will build on this performance. it was a stark contrast to the last time we saw him in competition (spring game, iowa) he improved from those outings, and i think he's going to torch SHS
Who are you and what have you done with monsterballads?

It seems like you have been posting for him all day.

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 5:27 pm to
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Again. It inflated his #'s..


The same could be said for any QB on any team who had a long pass for a TD. So, your point is little more than nonsense and a poor attempt to validate your claim that AJ had a crappy game.

240 yds, 2 TDs, no ints, and a passing rating of 170 is not going to equate to a bad game in the mind of any sane/rational person unless they have some weird agenda.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 5:46 pm to
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The people in this thread make it sound like he is the greatest QB we have ever had...

Nope note one. Please link.

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I think he played like crap... OVERALL.. The only positive I got from it was that he didn't turn the ball over..


That is certainly one positive, but also certainly no the only positive.

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Some of his throws were horrible


Very few of his throws were "horrible". He lacks touch on the screens and needs to practice that. Some of his throws were excellent. Why focus on the "horrible" ones? His throw to Diarse was perfect. His other throws on the roll-out and deep were pretty too. I don't get you.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 6:36 pm to
I think a far more intresting and more importantly relevant stat would be 2014 SEC Qb stats comparison for season openers.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5646 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 6:44 pm to
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I think a far more intresting and more importantly relevant stat would be 2014 SEC Qb stats comparison for season openers.
Interesting and relevant!!!
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6564 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 7:36 pm to
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I like how some fans are saying we were way too conservative in the first half and opened it up in the second half, yet we threw 15 passes in the first and 6 in the second.

The formations opened it up with less I formation, but on straight play calls we were less wide open.

It just shows how much many fans on here don't know about football.


I don't know what you're trying to prove here. You don't have to pass more to "open up" the offense. I would say spreading the defense like we did in the second half was less conservative even if we ran the ball more.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 7:40 pm to
What's crazy about Jennings is that his weakness appears to be the short passing game... He couldn't complete a simple screen pass.

And not a single slant or drag across the middle was thrown the entire game.. Just odd if you ask me.

Most of his passes were 10+ yards down the field besides the 2 pt conversion, a trey quinn 7 yrd catch, and a dump off to Kenny Hilliard I believe
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