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re: Why is Marijuana illegal?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
There no good reason why it's illegal. I'd imagine we have a small majority nationally right now who agrees
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I heard forever ago, but can't remember exactly. Think there was some lobbying from a powerful raw materials mogul who didn't want to compete with inexpensive hemp materials, and had politicians smear all products in the cannabis family with some ridiculous campaigns about marijuana inciting violence and rapaciousness in black men.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:13 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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ridiculous campaigns about marijuana inciting violence and rapaciousness in black men.
Like robbing a store for some cheap cigars, pushing the store owner, walking in the middle of the road, and then attacking and charging an armed police officer?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:17 pm to navy
quote:Dude, I don't even know where to start on all the stupid shite you just said.
Like robbing a store for some cheap cigars, pushing the store owner, walking in the middle of the road, and then attacking and charging an armed police officer?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:18 pm to navy
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Like robbing a store for some cheap cigars, pushing the store owner, walking in the middle of the road, and then attacking and charging an armed police officer
drunk people do stuff like that. people with poor judgment make poor decisions, the likelihood of doing so is increased with drug use, but I don't think the government should be able to tell me what I put in my body...none of their business.
That goes for heroin, cocaine, x, whatever
speaking of crime, black markets are responsible for a larger share of the crime pie
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:28 pm to BRL79
quote:You will find that most drug laws originated from fears of certain groups. In the west, it was fear of Mexican immigrants. East it was black men and white women.
BRL79 Why is Marijuana illegal? I've watched documentaries on it, it was supposedly banned in the early 1900's because it was thought to be a contributing factor to black violence. Not making this up.
Harry Anslinger: "“Most marijuana smokers are Negroes, Hispanics, jazz musicians, and entertainers. Their satanic music is driven by marijuana, and marijuana smoking by white women makes them want to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and others.”
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:28 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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small majority
It's actually closer to like 70/30.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:30 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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UsingUpAllTheLetters
Please ignore Navy in these threads.
He's an old man who gets pleasure out of posting ignorance and trolling drug threads.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:31 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Like robbing a store for some cheap cigars, pushing the store owner, walking in the middle of the road, and then attacking and charging an armed police officer?
Dude, I don't even know where to start on all the stupid shite you just said.
I thought Reefer Madness was one of the most ridiculous things I'd ever seen until I saw the beliefs of some folks who post here. Scary.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:32 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Think there was some lobbying from a powerful raw materials mogul who didn't want to compete with inexpensive hemp materials,
I believe it was the Dupont family.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 3:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
MR. ANSLINGER: I have another letter from the prosecutor at a place in New Jersey.
It is as follows:
"That I fully appreciate the need for action, you may judge from the fact that last January I tried a murder case for several days, of a particularly brutal character in which one colored young man killed another, literally smashing his face and head to a pulp, as the enclosed photograph demonstrates. One of the defenses was that the defendant's intellect was so prostrated from his smoking marihuana cigarettes that he did not know what he was doing. The defendant was found guilty and sentenced to a long term of years. I am convinced that marihuana had been indulged in, that the smoking had occurred, and the brutality of the murder was accounted for by the narcotic, though the defendant's intellect had not been totally prostrate, so the verdict was legally correct. It seems to me that this instance might be of value to you in your campaign."
SENATOR BROWN: It affects them that way?
MR. ANSLINGER: Yes. This is a photograph of the murdered man, Senator. It shows the fury of the murderer.
In June of this year, at Geneva, an international committee of experts in going over the reports received from all over the world said that the reports thus far indicate that the medical value of cannabis derivatives is very doubtful. There is another report here from Dr. Paul Nicholas Leech.
SENATOR BROWN: That is, to make perfectly clear, its medical value is not very great, and there are many other drugs that may be used in place of it that are fully as good if not better?
MR. ANSLINGER: Yes, sir; it is not indispensable.
SENATOR BROWN: I think some medical men say that if we had no such drug at all the medical profession would not be very greatly handicapped. That is, medical science would not be very greatly handicapped.
MR. ANSLINGER: I think they are pretty generally in agreement that its use could be abandoned without any suffering.
I have a few cases here that I would like to tell the committee about. In Alamosa, Colorado, they seem to be having a lot of difficulty. The citizens petitioned Congress for help, in addition to the help that is given them under state law. In Kansas and New Mexico also we have had a great deal of trouble.
Here is a typical illustration: A 15-year-old boy, found mentally deranged from smoking marihuana cigarettes, furnished enough information to police officers to lead to the seizure of 15 pounds of marihuana. That was seized in a garage in an Ohio town. These boys had been getting marihuana at a playground, and the supervisors there had been peddling it to children, but they got rather alarmed when they saw these boys were developing the habit, and particularly when this boy began to go insane.
In Florida some years ago we had the case of a 20-year-old boy who killed his brothers, a sister, and his parents while under the influence of marihuana.
Recently, in Ohio, there was a gang of very young men, all under 20 years of age, every one of whom had confessed that they had committed some 38 holdups while under the influence of the drug.
In another place in Ohio, a young man shot the hotel clerk while trying to hold him up. His defense was that he was under the influence of marihuana.
SENATOR BROWN: When a person smokes the cigarette, how long does the influence of the drug continue?
MR. ANSLINGER: From reports coming to me, I think it might last as long as 48 hours before the effects of the drug fully wear off.
SENATOR BROWN: I do not know whether it was your article I read, or an article from some other source, but I understand that experiments have been conducted, in which the persons smoking the marihuana have been kept under control after taking the drug. Do you know whether or not that demonstrated how long the effect would be felt?
MR. ANSLINGER: As I remember it, the effects in those cases were something like 48 hours, before they fully returned to their normal senses.
It is as follows:
"That I fully appreciate the need for action, you may judge from the fact that last January I tried a murder case for several days, of a particularly brutal character in which one colored young man killed another, literally smashing his face and head to a pulp, as the enclosed photograph demonstrates. One of the defenses was that the defendant's intellect was so prostrated from his smoking marihuana cigarettes that he did not know what he was doing. The defendant was found guilty and sentenced to a long term of years. I am convinced that marihuana had been indulged in, that the smoking had occurred, and the brutality of the murder was accounted for by the narcotic, though the defendant's intellect had not been totally prostrate, so the verdict was legally correct. It seems to me that this instance might be of value to you in your campaign."
SENATOR BROWN: It affects them that way?
MR. ANSLINGER: Yes. This is a photograph of the murdered man, Senator. It shows the fury of the murderer.
In June of this year, at Geneva, an international committee of experts in going over the reports received from all over the world said that the reports thus far indicate that the medical value of cannabis derivatives is very doubtful. There is another report here from Dr. Paul Nicholas Leech.
SENATOR BROWN: That is, to make perfectly clear, its medical value is not very great, and there are many other drugs that may be used in place of it that are fully as good if not better?
MR. ANSLINGER: Yes, sir; it is not indispensable.
SENATOR BROWN: I think some medical men say that if we had no such drug at all the medical profession would not be very greatly handicapped. That is, medical science would not be very greatly handicapped.
MR. ANSLINGER: I think they are pretty generally in agreement that its use could be abandoned without any suffering.
I have a few cases here that I would like to tell the committee about. In Alamosa, Colorado, they seem to be having a lot of difficulty. The citizens petitioned Congress for help, in addition to the help that is given them under state law. In Kansas and New Mexico also we have had a great deal of trouble.
Here is a typical illustration: A 15-year-old boy, found mentally deranged from smoking marihuana cigarettes, furnished enough information to police officers to lead to the seizure of 15 pounds of marihuana. That was seized in a garage in an Ohio town. These boys had been getting marihuana at a playground, and the supervisors there had been peddling it to children, but they got rather alarmed when they saw these boys were developing the habit, and particularly when this boy began to go insane.
In Florida some years ago we had the case of a 20-year-old boy who killed his brothers, a sister, and his parents while under the influence of marihuana.
Recently, in Ohio, there was a gang of very young men, all under 20 years of age, every one of whom had confessed that they had committed some 38 holdups while under the influence of the drug.
In another place in Ohio, a young man shot the hotel clerk while trying to hold him up. His defense was that he was under the influence of marihuana.
SENATOR BROWN: When a person smokes the cigarette, how long does the influence of the drug continue?
MR. ANSLINGER: From reports coming to me, I think it might last as long as 48 hours before the effects of the drug fully wear off.
SENATOR BROWN: I do not know whether it was your article I read, or an article from some other source, but I understand that experiments have been conducted, in which the persons smoking the marihuana have been kept under control after taking the drug. Do you know whether or not that demonstrated how long the effect would be felt?
MR. ANSLINGER: As I remember it, the effects in those cases were something like 48 hours, before they fully returned to their normal senses.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 4:33 pm to CherryGarciaMan
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He's an old man
Easy there, Cheech ... I ain't that old.
And what exactly is the point of this thread ... other than being the daily druggie whine-a-thon about weed being illegal?
You're a big boy ... you want to smoke it ... smoke it.
Just don't cry if there are ramifications.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 4:39 pm to navy
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You're a big boy ... you want to smoke it ... smoke it.
Just don't cry if there are ramifications.
You've completely missed the point of this thread.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 4:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Racism.
Seriously.
Seriously.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 4:41 pm to upgrayedd
People in the military and law enforcement tend to have a hard time with the is-ought gap.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 4:42 pm to Iosh
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People in the military and law enforcement tend to have a hard time with the is-ought gap.
So does my mother
Posted on 8/27/14 at 5:10 pm to CherryGarciaMan
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He's an old man
According to many, so am I.. I hate that this became some kind of slur.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 5:27 pm to The Spleen
That is racism? Seems like they were making excuses and looking for reasons as to why blacks are so violent. Sounds like they are getting the benefit of the doubt to me.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 5:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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i got bama board access
Can't believe anyone would be proud of this.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 5:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He's an old man
According to many, so am I.. I hate that this became some kind of slur.
Almost as bad as 'social conservative', right?
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