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Old time deer management ideas...why do people love em
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:13 pm
Joined a new lease. Great land, good hunting plenty of deer, and good to great flooded slough timber duck hunting. From what I hear, most of membership doesn't deer hunt at all. Weirdest thing is that they basically are anti doe killing. I kind of thought this was a thing of the past.
I would join no matter what the rules are, I like the terrain, I know some members well, and there are good deer there and you get the bonus of good duck hunting. Why do some folks encourage no doe harvest, is there a biological reason why? I ask because I believe this property is on DMAP as well and gets some biologist guidance.
I would join no matter what the rules are, I like the terrain, I know some members well, and there are good deer there and you get the bonus of good duck hunting. Why do some folks encourage no doe harvest, is there a biological reason why? I ask because I believe this property is on DMAP as well and gets some biologist guidance.
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:16 pm to tigerfoot
To kill doe or not kill doe is not a universal response. It completely depends on current population, environmental factors, expected predation, and fawn survival rates for a particular area.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:16 pm to tigerfoot
old timers think if you kill does it will hurt the herd population
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:16 pm to tigerfoot
quote:They remember the days when you took a picture of a hoof print. That, or they can't get over the thought that does produce bucks. I had a conversation with one of these people in Avoyelles that I wish I had recorded.
Why do some folks encourage no doe harvest,
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:40 pm to tigerfoot
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anti doe killing
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property is on DMAP
Not being managed correctly if this is the case - kill them does...
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:50 pm to tigerfoot
Ugly women look a lot better in Alaska where the male population is greater than the female population.
Those bucks would move around a lot more looking for the few does that are still around..
Those bucks would move around a lot more looking for the few does that are still around..
Posted on 8/25/14 at 5:18 pm to tigerfoot
Just shoot them when no one is looking
Posted on 8/25/14 at 7:43 pm to tigerfoot
Both of my grandpa's had this engrained in them. They would preach it to us that you didn't shot a doe because you were basically killing several deer.
My dad still has this mentality and I still have a little of it engrained in me as well.
I was reading some other hunting message boards and it finally dawned on me. During the Great Depression, many deer populations were almost hunted to the point of almost near 'extinction' in many areas. Same can be said of many other types of game.
It took several decades afterward for many of the wildlife populations to recover from overhunting.
That why a lot of the old-timers look down upon killing a doe. To them it was about survival.
My dad still has this mentality and I still have a little of it engrained in me as well.
I was reading some other hunting message boards and it finally dawned on me. During the Great Depression, many deer populations were almost hunted to the point of almost near 'extinction' in many areas. Same can be said of many other types of game.
It took several decades afterward for many of the wildlife populations to recover from overhunting.
That why a lot of the old-timers look down upon killing a doe. To them it was about survival.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:02 pm to tigerfoot
Old timers had it beat into their heads that if you kill a doe, you kill the goose that laid the golden eggs. I was a young un, but I remember going years without seeing a deer. For the first few years that we started killing deer on our property, I shied away from killing does. My uncles killed every deer they saw and I figured it would catch up to them one day and the kill rate would decline. On the contrary, they killed more and more every year. At some point around the year 2000, I figured if you can't beat em, join em. At one point, my 2 uncles and a cousin were consistently killing 10-15 deer a year on 80 acres every single year.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:00 am to tigerfoot
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Joined a new lease. Great land, good hunting plenty of deer, and good to great flooded slough timber duck hunting. From what I hear, most of membership doesn't deer hunt at all.
Hope you don't plan on killing many deer during duck season.
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