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Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:33 pm to lsulaker
Congrads on the sechs.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:35 pm to uway
Nice generalization
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:38 pm to Jim Rockford
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Just about every woman you know is a feminist: Your spouses, girlfriends, sisters, mothers, all of them. Pretty much none of them would willingly go back to an era when they couldn't vote, couldn't get a job outside of nurse or teacher, didn't have any recourse for a neglectful or abusive husband, couldn't control their own reproduction. And most reasonable men-and even most OTers-wouldn't want to live in that world either.
Don't buy into the stupid internet memes of what a feminist is and is not.
The meaning of the ideology/movement of feminism has evolved since its origin in the women's suffrage movement. It would be unfair to say that society's current definition of feminism is the belief that both sexes are equal. It has become more of a philosophy on how to MAKE both genders equal in society by lawful means such as reparations and gender based affirmative action. Personally, I believe women and men are equal and society and government should treat men and women equally, but I in no way call myself a feminist.
As Friedrich Hayek once said, "There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them equal." I believe the majority of people who call themselves feminists support ideas/laws that attempt to make both genders equal rather than supporting the idea of treating them equally.
I believe The Amazing Atheist's definition of feminism is the most accurate description of the movement/ideology as it stands today.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:40 pm to Jim Rockford
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willingly go back to an era when they couldn't vote,
quote:many would
even most OTers-wouldn't want to live in that world either.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:42 pm to Ping Pong
I dunno man. People get all wrapped around the axle over something somebody has said and gets reposted on the internet. I never run into these types IRL. I guess they exist, but it's hard to get too worked up over some outrageous statement that has little effect on me.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:44 pm to Sentrius
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love it when people post the truth on the Internet. It makes the world a safer and better place.
Hey buddy. Send me some emails I'd appreciate. Something new would be nice.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:48 pm to lsulaker
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feminazi
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feminist
Not the same. (Ideally, anyway.)
I consider myself a feminist, but if makes y'all feel more comfortable I could also be an equalist/egalitarian/whatever.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:49 pm to Jet12
Sounds exactly like what a vagyborg would say...
Hmmmmmmmm...
Hmmmmmmmm...
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:52 pm to shutterspeed
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Also, they like to make everyone miserable around them.
Not in my experience.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:53 pm to Jet12
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but if makes y'all feel more comfortable I could also be an equalist/egalitarian/whatever
By saying you're an egalitarian, do you mean that you believe in equal opportunities or equal outcomes?
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:02 pm to Ping Pong
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Personally, I believe women and men are equal and society and government should treat men and women equally, but I in no way call myself a feminist.
This is like saying "I'm a guy who loves having sex with other dudes, but I in no way call my self a homosexual."
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:02 pm to Ping Pong
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By saying you're an egalitarian, do you mean that you believe in equal opportunities or equal outcomes?
It depends on what you're talking about. Equal opportunity, definitely. I'm not sure if it would be possible for EVERYTHING to have equal outcomes, but as long as there's the possibility for it, sure.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:09 pm to Jet12
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I'm not sure if it would be possible for EVERYTHING to have equal outcomes, but as long as there's the possibility for it, sure.
so you're a communist?
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:10 pm to Ping Pong
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so you're a communist?
I ain't no damn commie!
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:12 pm to Behind The Ivy
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This is like saying "I'm a guy who loves having sex with other dudes, but I in no way call my self a homosexual."
100 years ago it would have been, but the definitions of words change. The current definition of feminism is very ambiguous.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:17 pm to Jet12
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I ain't no damn commie!
Well the goal of communism is for each member of society to be as equal as possible and you said earlier you believe in equal outcomes for everyone if it is possible.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:18 pm to Ping Pong
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100 years ago it would have been, but the definitions of words change. The current definition of feminism is very ambiguous.
True. Feminism would also support men's issues, but too many spiteful extremists have messed that up.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:19 pm to Ping Pong
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Well the goal of communism is for each member of society to be as equal as possible and you said earlier you believe in equal outcomes for everyone if it is possible.
That's the ideal, yes. Does it ever work? Not really.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:21 pm to Jet12
The poor OP.
Afraid that his wife won't lay down on command soon.
Enjoy the alimony.
Afraid that his wife won't lay down on command soon.
Enjoy the alimony.
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