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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:27 pm to Bear Is Dead
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If you want to make a splash, go get Florida State and Clemson.
Hey... it's going to make all 5 conferences go to 16 teams and I'm all for adding SMU and RICe - two victories and sending Bama and Auburn to the West Division. It will make Ole Miss and Moo State even more relevant and cause those rivalries to come up a notch or two. I love the Bama rivalry but give me a sure V and a better chance at the SEC championship game where we play Saban and God how fun would that be???
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:31 pm to jaguar fan
quote:
o who are your top 10 non power conference teams/with good markets you would bring in?
there are none, which is why this discussion is stupid.
people need to stop and understand the reason behind expansion - its either a) survival or b) more money.
obviously the SEC isnt worrying about survival, so that just leaves option b.
if you bring in a new team, that team must bring with it a new market. we are already in dallas and houston - lsu and aTm both have significant followings. every cable provider in both metros will be providing the SEC network. these little shite arse schools like SMU and Rice bring nothing to the table.
ditto for East Carolina - a school we would bring in soley to increase the footprint - but they dont have enough eyeballs to justify splitting the revenue with an additional school.
the only reasonable choices for expansion are currently in the B12 or ACC, and i really cant imagine any of those schools jumping ship now (contracts have been renewed and buyouts increased). if the ACC were to implode for some reason, UNC and UVA or VT would be the two likely targets. i know there are those who would want FSU or Clemson but i highly doubt that would ever get the approval of UF or USC respectively.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:31 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
Let's be rational. The SEC will not add SMU or Rice. I can see NC State and VA tech, to occupy two new states and both solid programs. I'd personally like to see UNC. I think that would be huge, but probably as unrealistic as SMU or Rice.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:39 pm to ALTiger
Yeah, UNC isn't coming unless something big happens to the ACC. They have a lot of power there, and I don't see them giving it up. They also wouldn't want to give up their basketball rivalry with Duke. NC State is more realistic, but still not likely at all.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:47 pm to CheerWhine
what about a team like Kansas or Kansas St
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:52 pm to Diddles
Florida State in the East
UT in the West
UT in the West
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:53 pm to jcole4lsu
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people need to stop and understand the reason behind expansion - its either a) survival or b) more money.
obviously the SEC isnt worrying about survival, so that just leaves option b.
if you bring in a new team, that team must bring with it a new market. we are already in dallas and houston - lsu and aTm both have significant followings. every cable provider in both metros will be providing the SEC network. these little shite arse schools like SMU and Rice bring nothing to the table.
ditto for East Carolina - a school we would bring in soley to increase the footprint - but they dont have enough eyeballs to justify splitting the revenue with an additional school.
the only reasonable choices for expansion are currently in the B12 or ACC, and i really cant imagine any of those schools jumping ship now (contracts have been renewed and buyouts increased). if the ACC were to implode for some reason, UNC and UVA or VT would be the two likely targets. i know there are those who would want FSU or Clemson but i highly doubt that would ever get the approval of UF or USC respectively.
THIS. All of this. And only this.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:53 pm to Diddles
Kansas and KState are tied together, same with OU/OSU. Thats just in state politics for you.
UVA and VT are tied together as well, but in a different way. UVA lobbied hard and pulled strings to get VT in the ACC when they did, and as so, wont let VT bolt for the SEC unless UVA is assured a safe landing spot (like the B10).
UVA and VT are tied together as well, but in a different way. UVA lobbied hard and pulled strings to get VT in the ACC when they did, and as so, wont let VT bolt for the SEC unless UVA is assured a safe landing spot (like the B10).
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:58 pm to 24chevrolet48
SEC Network now needs content and star appeal.
Who brings the SEC Network national appeal or who do you want to see LSU play?
Texas
Oklahoma
FSU
Clemson
North Carolina
Rice
Baylor
SMU
Who brings the SEC Network national appeal or who do you want to see LSU play?
Texas
Oklahoma
FSU
Clemson
North Carolina
Rice
Baylor
SMU
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:59 pm to jcole4lsu
To add to this, both the Big 12 and the ACC have signed a grant of rights, which means that if a member leaves, they forfeit their TV money to the conference for the remainder of the deal. That pretty much shuts down realignment for a while, at least among the Power 5 conferences.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:10 pm to 24chevrolet48
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24chevrolet48
did you actually start calling other people out after than dumpster fire of an OP?
wow
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:15 pm to 24chevrolet48
I completely disagree with everything in your post (except that it's a possibility).
you are naming crappy teams with very low fan bases or teams in lousy tv markets.
as far as elite teams in other conference playing elite teams in the SEC it doesn't happen often now. and many of those are at neutral sites. it's the money. the lower tier teams will still play the elite teams so they can get a big payday.
imo, you aren't following the money. college football is about the money. it's sad to me but I can always just not go to games or not watch on tv if I don't like it. I THINK I will always watch LSU football but if the future determines we field a pure pro team, i'll probably watch other sports.
you are naming crappy teams with very low fan bases or teams in lousy tv markets.
as far as elite teams in other conference playing elite teams in the SEC it doesn't happen often now. and many of those are at neutral sites. it's the money. the lower tier teams will still play the elite teams so they can get a big payday.
imo, you aren't following the money. college football is about the money. it's sad to me but I can always just not go to games or not watch on tv if I don't like it. I THINK I will always watch LSU football but if the future determines we field a pure pro team, i'll probably watch other sports.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 5:29 pm to 24chevrolet48
There are no teams outside of Big 12 or ACC teams that would bring any value to the SEC.
There are no teams outside of the Big 12 teams that will bring any value to the Pac 12. Boise State(academics) and BYU (religion) are non starters.
Due to academic requirements there are no teams outside of Big 12 (UT/Kansas) & ACC that will bring any value to the Big 10.
Notre Dame is the lone exception to all of the above.
There are no teams outside of the Big 12 teams that will bring any value to the Pac 12. Boise State(academics) and BYU (religion) are non starters.
Due to academic requirements there are no teams outside of Big 12 (UT/Kansas) & ACC that will bring any value to the Big 10.
Notre Dame is the lone exception to all of the above.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 5:53 pm to TigerintheNO
I doubt they add anyone that doesn't bring a substantial potential for making more money. That's the first and foremost concern. It's not about adding teams to get to a number and worrying about the competitive level of those teams. Just because Rice and SMU are in big markets doesn't mean they bring money because both are borderline irrelevant athletically.
The SEC is fine for now at 14 on a financial level, and I doubt the rest of the league invites any other schools to further divide the pie unless the new schools bring the ability to exponentially grow the league's income (like Texas A&M and Missouri with their TV markets). When the time comes to expand, they'll get two programs that bring money.
The SEC is fine for now at 14 on a financial level, and I doubt the rest of the league invites any other schools to further divide the pie unless the new schools bring the ability to exponentially grow the league's income (like Texas A&M and Missouri with their TV markets). When the time comes to expand, they'll get two programs that bring money.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:31 pm to 24chevrolet48
Syracuse is the obvious choice. They're already on our schedule.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:03 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:
ALTiger
Let's be rational. The SEC will not add SMU or Rice. I can see NC State and VA tech, to occupy two new states and both solid programs.
I agree with NC State , Not with Va Tech, Give me Virginia
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I GrandDad
completely disagree with everything in your post (except that it's a possibility).
you are naming crappy teams with very low fan bases or teams in lousy tv markets.
Dude you totally miss his point, The point I think he's was making is: Out of the remain teams left who should the SEC go after.
Like we all know this grant of right of the ACC has made it pretty much a no go for any team exiting. BUT the law suit that is in court right now can change alot if Maryland wins its case. THEN the SEC needs to Get NC State and another team to come.
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as far as elite teams in other conference playing elite teams in the SEC it doesn't happen often now. and many of those are at neutral sites. it's the money.
You say its the Money, I Say you keep screwing your fan base with neutral site games, You dam right its going to be about the Money , The fans make the school the money, and They are tired of a EVERY YEAR Neutral site game away from Tiger Stadium. I don't mine driving to Houston 1 time every 5 years or so , but not every year.
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