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re: "Stop blaming black parents for underachieving kids"
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:58 am to Hawkeye95
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:58 am to Hawkeye95
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I definitely agree its the parents, but let's not pretend that these schools in urban areas are run well.
Yes, and I would like to have even more ways for kids who want to learn to get out and go to a different school via vouchers, etc.
That being said: It's still the parents (collective) who are responsible for those terrible schools. The difference in a slightly lower than average school versus a bad school versus a terrible school is just the number of kids who don't care (i.e. parents who don't care).
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:00 am to a want
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Yes, and I would like to have even more ways for kids who want to learn to get out and go to a different school via vouchers, etc.
I love vouchers, but I think all they will do is put the kids who have parents that don't care in the same school. Will end up more like a prison than a school.
But if I was a parent in a city, give me vouchers! at least you can improve your lot.
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That being said: It's still the parents (collective) who are responsible for those terrible schools.
I would actually say its the communities faults. Everyone would benefit if the schools were better, not just parents.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:13 am to a want
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Yes, and I would like to have even more ways for kids who want to learn to get out and go to a different school....
Welcome to the republican party. You might want to duck. A lot of people with a vested interest in preserving the status quo are threatened by your position.
It's unfair and inhumane to force students who care about their future into most of the urban public schools in my city. They should be allowed to attend either a private school via voucher or a magnet program that will actually challenge them in a safe place. In a perfect world, they can may have a choice depending on their aptitude or interest in various subjects.
The students whose parents do not care may do better in a more structured educational environment with a focus on mentorship and discipline.....and this is unfortunately a huge block of students in many areas.
What we have now in many urban areas (and in many poor rural areas) is a setup that sucks for everyone. This "one sized fits all" approach has been outdated since we've moved from single room school houses. Some kids are going to want more math and science, some are going to need better arts, film or lit programs, some others are going to gravitate towards technology, others towards athletics, etc.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 10:19 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:12 pm to a want
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Yes, and I would like to have even more ways for kids who want to learn to get out and go to a different school via vouchers, etc.
That being said: It's still the parents (collective) who are responsible for those terrible schools. The difference in a slightly lower than average school versus a bad school versus a terrible school is just the number of kids who don't care (i.e. parents who don't care).
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Americans are born on a mountain of gold. It's true some start out with better shovels than others, but all you have to do is dig.
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What's happening? What did you do to the real a want? He'd never share a viewpoint common with conservatives.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 12:17 pm
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