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re: What in the hell is wrong with this guy? (In regards to Speck limits)
Posted on 7/31/14 at 3:44 pm to TJG210
Posted on 7/31/14 at 3:44 pm to TJG210
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and I've then burnt 13 shrimp.
live bait is for pussies, i'll roast his arse with artificials....dude def isn't legit
jk....i'll buy a few live cocahoes every now and then
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 3:51 pm
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Posted on 7/31/14 at 3:48 pm to Ignignot
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live bait is for pussies
I don't know the guy, but he definitely comes across as being pissed that he has to spend more on shrimp. If dozens of school trout are eating your bait, that's not a population problem...
Posted on 7/31/14 at 3:50 pm to Da Hammer
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who fish Venice (where I fish 90% of the time) there has to be well over 100 guides in the area
Venice has exploded with fishing guides in the last 10-15 years.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:28 pm to JasonL79
I'm actually in favor of lowering the Speck limit to 10 fish per person guides excluded with a 14 inch minimum. The trout fishery is absolutely awful on the East side of the river from Main Pass to Delacroix to Shell Beach to Chef Pass to the Rigolets. Every guide I personally know is quietly saying the same thing this Grand Isle guide is saying publicly. I understand not wanting to hurt the fishery tourism dollar but something is really off with our fishery. Dulac is further removed from the impact of the oil spill but everything to the east was impacted and we need those Dulac trout to start helping the areas to the East repopulate.
The trout fishery isn't the only thing in trouble has anyone actually noticed the lack of pogies, rain minnows, mullet, & cocahoes in the marsh this year? Even the birds aren't as plentiful as they were pre-BP.
The trout fishery isn't the only thing in trouble has anyone actually noticed the lack of pogies, rain minnows, mullet, & cocahoes in the marsh this year? Even the birds aren't as plentiful as they were pre-BP.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:41 pm to ihometiger
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I'm actually in favor of lowering the Speck limit to 10 fish per person guides excluded with a 14 inch minimum.
Yea, screw science....let's just go ahead with basing regulations over short terms results. Was anyone screaming for this when they were smoking the trout last fall?
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Chef Pass to the Rigolets
Any of those folks care to acknowledge the amount of freshwater that was pumped into the area by the Pearl Rivers this spring/early summer?
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The trout fishery isn't the only thing in trouble has anyone actually noticed the lack of pogies, rain minnows, mullet, & cocahoes in the marsh this year? Even the birds aren't as plentiful as they were pre-BP.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:44 pm to TJG210
I think some of these guys must have some BP oil in their eye or something. Granted our year has been pretty bad , but I'm just gonna write it as an off year which happens every now and then.
Eta: the fishing was KILLLLLLLER before the oil spill tho.
Eta: the fishing was KILLLLLLLER before the oil spill tho.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:50 pm to PapaPogey
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I think some of these guys must have some BP oil in their eye or something.
Frankly I'm tired of hearing about it. If there are problems that's being caused by it then fine, but I saw a news report prior to Easter this year about the seafood lot in Westwego reporting fewer crabs and shrimp than usual.....well no shite the water was still damn frigid at that point.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:51 pm to ihometiger
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rain minnows
How many strong blows have we gotten out of the southeast this summer?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:52 pm to TJG210
Hey bruh, we've gotta blame someone!
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:52 pm to TJG210
Not many
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:02 pm to ihometiger
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I'm actually in favor of lowering the Speck limit to 10 fish per person guides excluded with a 14 inch minimum
This whole post is WTF... but why exclude the guides?
I'm going to guess that Capt. ihometiger is in favor of sector separation on the red snapper front, also.
As far as this entire topic... yeah, its been a tough year, but the fish are out there. The weather has mostly been terrible. We've had a consistent SW wind pumping the bays with dirty, fresh water. It happens, just like 2 years ago was a banner trout year for most. Be patient and let the scientists do their jobs.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:12 pm to lsufishnhunt
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I'm going to guess that Capt. ihometiger is in favor of sector separation on the red snapper front, also
Not in favor of sector separation at all. That favors the commercial fishing interests at the expense of the recreational angler.
Now I do agree that the weather has been brutal since last fall with record low temperatures which certainly had an impact. So has land loss and the higher Miss. River levels two years ago along with heavy spring rains in the South. The situation at least on the East side where I'm fishing has been steadily getting worse and worse each year since the spill.
It took four years for the people in Valdez to realize their fishery collapsed and here we are in year 4 and we are just now seeing the environmental impacts of the oil spill itself.
Where is the science you ask? Hell ask the LDWF who refuses to release it to the public. They don't want the tourism fishery industry to collapse which is why they are holding these studies back.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:17 pm to ihometiger
had a really bad recruitment year is 2011 and 2012, then a decent recruitment class this past year.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:18 pm to ihometiger
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Hell ask the LDWF who refuses to release it to the public. They don't want the tourism fishery industry to collapse which is why they are holding these studies back.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:18 pm to ihometiger
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I'm actually in favor of lowering the Speck limit to 10 fish per person guides excluded with a 14 inch minimum. The trout fishery is absolutely awful on the East side of the river from Main Pass to Delacroix to Shell Beach to Chef Pass to the Rigolets. Every guide I personally know is quietly saying the same thing this Grand Isle guide is saying publicly. I understand not wanting to hurt the fishery tourism dollar but something is really off with our fishery. Dulac is further removed from the impact of the oil spill but everything to the east was impacted and we need those Dulac trout to start helping the areas to the East repopulate. The trout fishery isn't the only thing in trouble has anyone actually noticed the lack of pogies, rain minnows, mullet, & cocahoes in the marsh this year? Even the birds aren't as plentiful as they were pre-BP.
So much fail in this post.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:20 pm to ihometiger
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Where is the science you ask? Hell ask the LDWF who refuses to release it to the public. They don't want the tourism fishery industry to collapse which is why they are holding these studies back
Nope....they're not releasing it due to the pending BP litigation. What would it do to the states case if they came out and said we had a record amount of trout? Besides, I thought I saw some data in the latest LA Sportsman saying that the populations were normal?
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The situation at least on the East side where I'm fishing has been steadily getting worse and worse each year since the spill.
How much oil actually made it's way into the Lake/Breton Sound area? If I'm not mistaken...Venice and to areas west stretching to Cocodrie caught the brunt of the oil?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:23 pm to ihometiger
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Hell ask the LDWF who refuses to release it to the public. They don't want the tourism fishery industry to collapse which is why they are holding these studies back.
I honestly think that it hasn't been released because of the ongoing litigation with BP. The state is doing everything in its power to get every penny that it can from them. I'd bet that if the fish stocks were actually struggling, we would have immediately known. The fact that it hasn't been released makes me believe that there hasn't been any change, but they don't want the lawyers to know that. At this point its all about the $$$.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:37 pm to TJG210
20 and 5
14.5 inches on the specks.
Do that and in about 5 years catching gator specks will be common. Then you'll need a slot for them.
14.5 inches on the specks.
Do that and in about 5 years catching gator specks will be common. Then you'll need a slot for them.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:39 pm to ihometiger
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Dulac is further removed from the impact of the oil spill but everything to the east was impacted and we need those Dulac trout to start helping the areas to the East repopulate.
You need to brush up on your trout info. Tagged fish studies have shown that trout populations don't mingle like this. With a couple exceptions, trout die a relatively short distance from where they were spawned.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:45 pm to Kcrad
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Do that and in about 5 years catching gator specks will be common. Then you'll need a slot for them.
Any science to back this up? What's going on in western Louisiana seems to disagree with your suggestion.
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