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re: Michigan teacher wants to quit union--but can't

Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:46 am to
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:46 am to
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Why do we need organized labor in today's world?

There are plenty of people working in awful conditions for low wages in this country.

Move your mind away from all the hyperbole for a minute and realize that the world does not all work in cubicles. If relatively powerless laborers want to organize to broker deals, why should they not be allowed to do so?

I'm not here saying that mandatory unions with mandatory dues are the righteous path, I am saying they are not without purpose and not all unions are blood-sucking
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11707 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:47 am to
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Move your mind away from all the hyperbole for a minute and realize that the world does not all work in cubicles. If relatively powerless laborers want to organize to broker deals, why should they not be allowed to do so?


If they want to do so, then I'm all for freedom. Let them do so.

But, if the company wants to fire them all on the spot for doing so, then that should be allowed as well.

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I'm not here saying that mandatory unions with mandatory dues are the righteous path, I am saying they are not without purpose and not all unions are blood-sucking


Most of them are.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29113 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:56 am to
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If relatively powerless laborers want to organize to broker deals, why should they not be allowed to do so?



You answered your own question. Relatively powerless people ... don't broker deals.

They work for and do what the people who broker deals tell them to do.

Laborers aren't supposed to have power...except individual power which should be realized if they want to advance to a higher status/paygrade via hard work, initiative, dedication, drive, etc. And those individuals shouldn't be straddled by union rules holding them back ... seniority and such.


If the laborers have bosses who are idiots ... then the bosses of those people should see that and fire that crappy boss.

If the boss' boss is an idiot, too ... well, then maybe the business just sucks and likely receives government bail-outs.
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